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Old 08-01-2012, 12:05 AM
 
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Let the free market handle it. If people don't like this business then it won't stay in business. Case closed. Simple really.

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Old 08-01-2012, 12:23 AM
 
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I challenge the claim that gay marriage should not be allowed. Would you blame "God" or some unverifiable/false claim about homosexuals for this view? Because the bible doesn't say you shouldn't allow gays to get married (In fact, considering the whole "free will" concept, he seems to be about letting "sinners" go ahead and "sin" more than anything else). He only says it's wrong. But if you would blame it on him, where is your opposition to giving all the other "sinners" the same rights as you enjoy? Personal prejudice revealed.

Or maybe you don't blame it on "God". Maybe you think it would harm society to let gays marry or adopt. But the evidence contradicts that kind of thinking as well. Here is evidence that might suggest gays are just as good (better, actually) at making a marriage work than heterosexuals:

Study: Same Sex Couples Have Lower Divorce Rates Than The Straights
FiveThirtyEight: Politics Done Right: Divorce Rates Higher in States with Gay Marriage Bans

"LOL. WTH when gay marriage is only how old in what states? 2 years in 13 states---really intelligent study."

Here is evidence that being raised by gay parents is not harmful to children in any way:

APA Policy Statement: Sexual Orientation, Parents, & Children
Studies of same-sex parenting

"It doesn't take a genius to know children do better with their mother and father living together in the same house and married to each other. DUH."

And here is evidence that children of same-sex couples may even fare better, generally speaking:

A child's life in a "gay" household
"Generally speaking. Who is speaking anyway? " May even fare better"----from a general study done by who? People with an agenda to prove it? We are expected to accept silly studies done by silly people being paid for it in where---universities, that get money to do the study? OOOKKKAAAYYYYYY"
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Old 08-01-2012, 12:25 AM
 
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Let the free market handle it. If people doesn't like this business then it won't stay in business. Case closed. Simple really.
Apparently the OP has some big issues with that.
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Old 08-01-2012, 12:26 AM
 
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Ultimately in the end, it's his business. I don't agree with his decision and I think his judgment and business sense stinks.

If it were my business, I'll serve anyone and everyone as long as they have the cash.
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Old 08-01-2012, 12:33 AM
 
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Ultimately in the end, it's his business. I don't agree with his decision and I think his judgment and business sense stinks.

If it were my business, I'll serve anyone and everyone as long as they have the cash.
That my friend is Communism, at least that's what nutjobs say
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Old 08-01-2012, 12:37 AM
 
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That my friend is Communism, at least that's what nutjobs say
I think it's more accurately called capitalism, but both communism and capitalism have the inherent flaws of being amoral and Godless.
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Old 08-01-2012, 04:17 AM
 
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All very interesting information, but it has absolutely nothing to do with gay marriages... as I'm sure plenty of gay couples use "traditional" designs, which look no different from any other wedding cakes. Does this particular bakery only make stock cakes, and refuse ALL customers who request a unique design? For that matter, do you think any couples (gay or straight) DON'T come up with their own?? I've been a bridesmaid/MOH four times now, and every one of these couples had a unique/custom cake. So again, how is this specific to gay vs straight weddings?

You have it backwards ...its a specialty shop. No cake would be the same. These cakes are ornaments. He does not do cakes for non traditional weddings and has no interest. No one can force another to produce an inspired unique wholly artistic item for the sole purpose of enhancing a single setting. Can't force an interior decorator or painter to do your portrait. Can't force an independent photographer for the ceremony.Can't force a specific Church for the ceremony. If it was a local grocer that just belted them out on assembly I can see the argument...but the the shop is specific ...its called .."Masterpiece Cake Shop" its a done deal except for the squawking...He has more argument as well.

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Old 08-01-2012, 05:18 AM
 
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Would any just married man and women levy a law suite in efforts to destroy a family business right after getting married......for not making them a cake ?

More evidence showing that a gay couple cannot be anything but a destructive menace to society. Threatening even more unemployment, effecting tax dollars in litigation, wasting the valuable time of the people, for a cake.
Pretty interesting stretch.
I'd probably say that they're creating more jobs and giving someone the opportunity to start a new cake making business that doesn't discriminate.

I can boycott anyone I choose, for any reason I choose.
I haven't used Exxon petrol since the Valdez.

It seems that you have a problem with the free market and choose to blame others (that you apparently dislike or hate) for a free market issue.
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Old 08-01-2012, 05:21 AM
 
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I can boycott anyone I choose, for any reason I choose.
I haven't used Exxon petrol since the Valdez.
I haven't watched pro football since 1982 when the NFL players went on strike for more money.
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Old 08-01-2012, 05:23 AM
 
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Masterpiece Cake Shop Faces Boycott Call After Refusal to Make Gay Wedding Cakes | Video | TheBlaze.com

Wow...these people hate anything that doesn't accept their lifestyle...amazing.

"Homosexual hate on the rampage'? LOL!
What a drama queen!

And I'm not referring to the gay couple.
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