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Bit of a loaded question on a topic that is just another Obama bashing topic however i'll respond by saying If you are going to use your poll as an indicator i'd suspect it would only show the percentage of rightwing to leftwing participants in the topic and not a true indication of whether Obama has been a success or not that will be left to the history books. Certainly Obama hasnt achieved the desired objectives he said he was going to achieve but ya gotta be pretty naive to think politicians dont make promises they may or may not be able to keep once in office.
Had the man been white, they would have LOVED HIM.
Yes also his anti business stance is basically caring about the poor which America really hates, after all your profits come from poor people who don't know better.
If all Americans had common sense in consumer spending and only bought things they can afford American would sink quickly so Obama being anti business is basically saying he's getting in the way of our profits.
Giving old people vouchers to deal with private insurance companies says more than enough, we all know how this will end.
Ripping off blacks and giving them higher interest rates on homes is American, it's increased profits.... That is America.
people don't like the wars, the illegal immigration, having their currency devalued and being forced to pay more for their goods and services (gas prices have doubled), the high unemployment, the massively increasing federal debt, the lack of prosecution of the "bad guys", and citizens being killed by weapons supplied by their own government, with no ability to defend themselves. (and obama squelching the investigation on purpose).
this has been a tragic administration.
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Bush did all that, Romney and Ryan will continue that, what president is going to say no to illegals with fortune 500 companies telling them otherwise?
Considering the solidarity of the RW congressional opposition I say he is doing very well. If he and a Democratic veto proof Congress he would have been great. If nothing else he has forced our Military to get out of Iraq and work on getting out of Afghanistan. At least he has managed not to let the military go to war with Iran. I rate his Presidency as OK and am working to reelect him.
My only complaint is he is too far to the right for my political positions. I would like to see a Universal Health Care System without any private insurance involvement, reforms to Social Security starting with eliminating the tax cap and applying the tax to all income from all sources, implementing countervailing tariffs to eliminate the wage gap between our own workers and Asian slave labor and removing our troops from the Middle East completely.
I would also like to reform our economy from a continuous wartime military economy to one based on domestic production and infrastructure repair and enhancement.
Yes also his anti business stance is basically caring about the poor which America really hates, after all your profits come from poor people who don't know better.
If all Americans had common sense in consumer spending and only bought things they can afford American would sink quickly so Obama being anti business is basically saying he's getting in the way of our profits.
Giving old people vouchers to deal with private insurance companies says more than enough, we all know how this will end.
Ripping off blacks and giving them higher interest rates on homes is American, it's increased profits.... That is America.
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Originally Posted by GregW
Considering the solidarity of the RW congressional opposition I say he is doing very well. If he and a Democratic veto proof Congress he would have been great. If nothing else he has forced our Military to get out of Iraq and work on getting out of Afghanistan. At least he has managed not to let the military go to war with Iran. I rate his Presidency as OK and am working to reelect him.
My only complaint is he is too far to the right for my political positions. I would like to see a Universal Health Care System without any private insurance involvement, reforms to Social Security starting with eliminating the tax cap and applying the tax to all income from all sources, implementing countervailing tariffs to eliminate the wage gap between our own workers and Asian slave labor and removing our troops from the Middle East completely.
I would also like to reform our economy from a continuous wartime military economy to one based on domestic production and infrastructure repair and enhancement.
DC - It not I that am removed from reality. I am removed from your reality. I just see a different reality form yours. Yours is the successful reality of the investment classes and mine is the endless striving to stay afloat of the workers faced with great uncertainty and business system designed to transfer wealth upward.
My policies would reduce the amount of overseas profit flowing to the stock market and replace it with wages going to the working people of the country. Yes, this would reduce the value of the market somewhere closer to reality and hurt people forced into owning investment accounts. So what? I suspect less the half of our population with incomes below the median even have investment accounts and those over have both investment accounts and company retirements. The top few percent never have to worry about going without because they will always have enough for a luxurious living regardless of how badly they screw up.
I am not delusional but I do see clearly and am willingly describe what I see. I see America’s workers floundering while its elites loot the country for ever more wealth they can squander in Bangladesh, Bangalore or Bahrain or on ruinous wars where they make ever more money supplying guns, bullets and mercenaries.
DC - It not I that am removed from reality. I am removed from your reality. I just see a different reality form yours. Yours is the successful reality of the investment classes and mine is the endless striving to stay afloat of the workers faced with great uncertainty and business system designed to transfer wealth upward.
My policies would reduce the amount of overseas profit flowing to the stock market and replace it with wages going to the working people of the country. Yes, this would reduce the value of the market somewhere closer to reality and hurt people forced into owning investment accounts. So what? I suspect less the half of our population with incomes below the median even have investment accounts and those over have both investment accounts and company retirements. The top few percent never have to worry about going without because they will always have enough for a luxurious living regardless of how badly they screw up.
I am not delusional but I do see clearly and am willingly describe what I see. I see America’s workers floundering while its elites loot the country for ever more wealth they can squander in Bangladesh, Bangalore or Bahrain or on ruinous wars where they make ever more money supplying guns, bullets and mercenaries.
Don't worry about those kind of posters; they repeat the same nonsense ad nauseum without saying anything. You and I are pretty much on the same page in that I feel we are debasing ourselves to accommodate slave wages on the global scale. Germany and Japan don't do it to themselves, why should we?
I'm also not too happy with certain aspects of Obama's policies, such as continuing the drug war, but I also live in a fairly right-wing country where we have to pick our battles, and right now the battle should be against those who want to not only block all progress, but take our country back not to the 1950s but the 1790s.
Don't worry about those kind of posters; they repeat the same nonsense ad nauseum without saying anything. You and I are pretty much on the same page in that I feel we are debasing ourselves to accommodate slave wages on the global scale. Germany and Japan don't do it to themselves, why should we?
I'm also not too happy with certain aspects of Obama's policies, such as continuing the drug war, but I also live in a fairly right-wing country where we have to pick our battles, and right now the battle should be against those who want to not only block all progress, but take our country back not to the 1950s but the 1790s.
Liberals oppose what Germany and Japan have done-
1. corporate consumption tax (not a tarriff)
2. No NAFTA
3. No China most favored nation trade status
4. lower corporate tax rates
5. No trial lawyers association
6. No EPA
Japan and Germany are much more highly unionized than the US. What we have in place is a poor trade and tax policy.
Approximately 66% of this board are either Republicans or lean towards the right, so why should we expect the results of this poll to be any different?
If you want a true gauge, you need equal representation from each side.
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