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Old 08-22-2012, 02:32 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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did anyone even notice this?
If that turns out to be true (although it seems awfully "convenient"), I'm sure they will not be charged with a hate crime... they're only investigating the incident, people, nobody has been charged yet! Did anyone even notice THAT?

 
Old 08-22-2012, 02:33 PM
 
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I remember watching that ozzy osbourne show and they got pissed at their neighbors for playing loud music or whatever it was and he went and tossed a ham at em. I guess good thing they weren't muslim or he'd be in jail now.
See, now that is a clever joke IMO...
 
Old 08-22-2012, 02:38 PM
 
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It appears they just physically attack folks.
Right... and NO other American has ever been known to do that, nor has ANY other protest ever become violent. Heck, this was tame compared to some of the "pro-life" and anti-Israel (among other) protests I've seen! Not that two wrongs make a right, but clearly this isn't a Muslim phenomenon.
 
Old 08-22-2012, 02:42 PM
 
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I bet they have no idea just how much is made with pork by-products and I'm not just talking about food.
And I bet you have no idea just how little they give a crap. Most devout Muslims only shop at Halal markets, and prepare the majority of their food at home... do you often see (obviously clothed) Muslims at Arby's?
 
Old 08-22-2012, 02:42 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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You people really don't get it, do you? Unbelievable that I'm the only one who sees their point, and I'm freakin' Jewish!!! Offending isn't a hate crime, intentionally attacking somebody based on their race or religion is. Got it?? Most American Muslims just want to be left alone, and anyone here who doesn't respect their freedom to worship without being targeted is the one who needs "get on a jet and leave" (as another poster so eloquently suggested).

And no, it's not about the stupid bacon - it's about the lack of common decency, respect, and understanding of our laws, which all seem to be the American way lately.


There is the "you people" thing again.

Get off your high horse, before you get knocked off.

I've been attacked here on these very forums, because the ignorant liberal, thought I was a Christian.
I corrected them, without a lash back of hatred. It is called, turning the other cheek, in the tolerant Christian faith.
 
Old 08-22-2012, 02:46 PM
 
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I have never understood HATE crime. Isn't all crimes hate? Who does a crime because they love you?
Why is this so confusing to some people? The term "hate crime" means to target based on a specific bias, in other words it's all about prejudicial motivation... and actually, "love crimes" aren't all that uncommon (ever heard of crimes of passion or domestic violence?).

Maybe you should all peruse this site: FBI — Hate Crimes
 
Old 08-22-2012, 02:47 PM
 
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"Hate crime" is a colloquialism for bias motivated crime. Bias motivated sentence enhancement laws increase the sentences for worse criminals with more sinister motivations.
I still think it means the same.

All Crimes are committed for sinister reasons.

Not trying to be argumentative, but what makes one sin worst than the another?

Whoever is without sin cast the first stone.
 
Old 08-22-2012, 02:48 PM
 
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There is the "you people" thing again.

Get off your high horse, before you get knocked off.

I've been attacked here on these very forums, because the ignorant liberal, thought I was a Christian.
I corrected them, without a lash back of hatred. It is called, turning the other cheek, in the tolerant Christian faith.
By "you people" I meant the people on this thread, LOL. I have no idea if you're a liberal, conservative, Christian, Jew, or whatever - I am only talking about those of who don't understand this issue. So yes, YOU PEOPLE. I thought Muslims were the sensitive ones?
 
Old 08-22-2012, 02:49 PM
 
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And I bet you have no idea just how little they give a crap. Most devout Muslims only shop at Halal markets, and prepare the majority of their food at home... do you often see (obviously clothed) Muslims at Arby's?

Obviously in your hasty rant, you totally forgot how to comprehend what you read.

Not food related... there are so many things made. Ever hear of a thing called soap?
Oh snaps!

Or is that why they smell like a perfume / cologne factory, or reek of BO?
 
Old 08-22-2012, 02:54 PM
 
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I still think it means the same.

Crimes are committed for sinister reasons.

Not trying to be argumentative, but what makes one sin worst than the another?

Whoever is without sin cast the first stone.
Well, it is not the same. Why? Because you have to consider motivation in a crime, which is true in just about ANY criminal offense. Who is likely more of a danger to society - the teenager in love who painted "T.C. loves P.R." on a rock, or the skinhead who spray-painted swastikas and "Die Juden" on a synagogue wall? If you don't see how those two crimes are different, I don't know what to say to you.

And no, not all crimes are necessarily sinister in nature... is a pot smoker (in harsh-penalty states) being sinister when he/she lights up a joint?
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