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Old 08-25-2012, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent View Post
Lied to by whom? IBO itself? I posted their own mission statement.

Use critical thinking, man.
read with comprehension, my friend, dont just read.

 
Old 08-25-2012, 08:45 AM
 
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Finn,

With all due respect, it sounds to me like you attended a PRIVATE IB school in Europe, correct? Apples and oranges. My beef is with IB in American public schools.
No, it was not in Europe, nor in US, although later I went to a university in Europe. I am assuming the IB program is the same no matter where the classes are taken. I believe the original intent of the program was to create a school mainly for kids of diplomats and expats who move from country to country, so that the kids can continue the same program even if they moved from china to africa to Europe etc. Later it was made it available in US as well. When I was in IB, the local kids from the host country were not allowed in, it was strictly for expat kids.
 
Old 08-25-2012, 08:55 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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read with comprehension, my friend, dont just read.
I did. I see politically correct BS all over that mission statement. It's dripping with a political agenda prioritized over academic rigor.
 
Old 08-25-2012, 08:58 AM
 
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No, it was not in Europe, nor in US, although later I went to a university in Europe. I am assuming the IB program is the same no matter where the classes are taken. I believe the original intent of the program was to create a school mainly for kids of diplomats and expats who move from country to country, so that the kids can continue the same program even if they moved from china to africa to Europe etc. Later it was made it available in US as well. When I was in IB, the local kids from the host country were not allowed in, it was strictly for expat kids.
The IB program offered in the U.S. specifically states that its mission is "to create a better world," NOT to offer students a world class competitive education.
 
Old 08-25-2012, 10:04 AM
 
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I did. I see politically correct BS all over that mission statement. It's dripping with a political agenda prioritized over academic rigor.
Not true, but then again a partisan mind sees politics even when browsing Applebees's desert menu.
 
Old 08-25-2012, 10:06 AM
 
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The IB program offered in the U.S. specifically states that its mission is "to create a better world,"
Noooooooo, you can't have that Anything but a better world. How dare they
 
Old 08-25-2012, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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The IB program offered in the U.S. specifically states that its mission is "to create a better world," NOT to offer students a world class competitive education.
Y'know.

One way to create a better world is through better education.

Just saiyan.

However, I know, I know.

It's easier to see political conspiracy in everything around you rather than taking things at face value.
 
Old 08-25-2012, 10:46 AM
 
Location: On the border of off the grid
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There is a huge amount of pressure on parents to put their kids into IB programs. I feel it is pretty much about the money. There is a huge amount of corruption within our education system. There is just too much money floating around and many education "professionals" are grabbing as much as they can get from the parents or taxpayers.

... all the while squealing "It's for the children!"
 
Old 08-25-2012, 10:52 AM
 
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Y'know.

One way to create a better world is through better education.

Just saiyan.

However, I know, I know.

It's easier to see political conspiracy in everything around you rather than taking things at face value.
Here's the problem with IB's empty platitudes and false promises - the Eurocrats behind IB do not believe a "better world" allows for American "exceptionalism" or national sovereignty. IB gives lip service with a sneer to any mention of "national" cultures or patriotism. Everyone, including an inanimate planet, has rights, according to IB and those rights are defined by the UDHR which does not recognize our inalienable rights (recognized by our Declaration of Independence) from our Creator.

*grin*
 
Old 08-25-2012, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Here's the problem with IB's empty platitudes and false promises
Everyone I knew who went through the IB program are better people because of it.

I see no "empty platitudes and false promises".
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