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Shape the thinking of the youth, because whoever controls the schools controls the State and whom ever controls the youth dominates the future Hitler's, Brown Shirts, is a good example.
There is evil at play here and the brainwashed & ignorant will never see it.
The only emphasis on social and global justice was the requirement of doing volunteer work.
Not according to IB. Their "mission"...
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The International Baccalaureate aims to develop inquiring, knowledgeable and caring young people who help to create a better and more peaceful world through intercultural understanding and respect. To this end the organization works with schools, governments and international organizations to develop challenging programmes of international education and rigorous assessment.
These programmes encourage students across the world to become active, compassionate and lifelong learners who understand that other people, with their differences, can also be right.
IB's more of a challenge than AP, anyone who says otherwise hasn't gone through either program.
It's that they crave more challenge on top of the IB challenge.
Wow. A lot of denial in this thread.
If IB were as rigorous and challenging as some of you seem to wish to claim, colleges and universities would have a much higher opinion of the program and offer more credit for IB classes and exams. They DON'T. Period. The proof is in the pudding.
shape the thinking of the youth, because whoever controls the schools controls the state and whom ever controls the youth dominates the future hitler's, brown shirts, is a good example.
There is evil at play here and the brainwashed & ignorant will never see it.
you are 100% correct, so nice to know there are more of us out there!
Note that if your purpose is only to earn credits, the AP classes may fit. The IB program, however, emphasizes critical thinking, writing and essays which the AP classes are weaker on, imo.
You do realize that AP exams include strictly scored written essays in the relevant subjects, right?
I have not been referring to an IB diploma - I have been responding to your contention that graduating from a US high school means a student can get into an Oxford or Cambridge college, the Sorbonne, EPFL, ETH, Freie Universität, etc., etc. - which is impossible.
And the Oxford .pdf I provided proves that your claim is patently false. An American student with outstanding SAT/ACT scores, great GPA and '5's on at least five AP exams and a regular public high school diploma absolutely qualifies as a candidate for admission. Period.
General Provisions
Review foreign educational certificates: general regulations for all countries
Recognized secondary school leaving certificates High School Diploma
with the following general subjects
(during the last 3 years)
First language (mother tongue)
Second language
Mathematics
Natural sciences (biology, chemistry or physics)
Humanities and social sciences (geography, history, or economics / law)
free (one subject from Category 2, 4 or 5)
Language requirements and - checks are reserved.
Are not recognized as AP courses
Art History
Computer Science
Comp Government & Politics
Environmental Science
Music Theory
Psychology
Studio Art
U.S. Government & Politics
Because it's a great program that challenges intelligent students?
Then why have we seen a lack of critical thinking from the IB proponents here in this thread when the actual facts posted show that IB is considered to be inferior to AP by colleges and universities, and by IB's own description of IB as a college prep program, NOT a college-level course program?
The IB Diploma is NOT equivalent to a 4 year baccalaureate (bachelor's degree) or a 2 year Associates Degree. It is an additional high school "college prep" programme, nothing more.
And that is EXACTLY how IB describes their program, as already posted. There should be no misunderstandings. The IBO itself calls it a college prep program.
One other issue that bothers me about the IB programme is how one Long Island school, Newsday reported recently, states how because of the different socio-economic backgrounds of students in their school, some children are
pigeon holed due to their unfortunate economic status, or social status. The schools goal along side IB is to
get children of every track into this IB programme, even if their reading skills are weak, their language skills are weak, their writing skills are weak. The teacher will gauge the understanding and master of a certain subject based on
other variables besides those mentioned above.
Basically this is the watering down of academia. Everyone can be right, the A student, akin, to the C student.
It's the IB teacher who must decide how rigorous the student was about his or her studying to grasp whatever he/she could grasp at the end of the course. Even if the entire concept one child researched and wrote about on the same subject is nothing at all like the perspective and concept of another child in the same class.
This reminds me of the outcome based education product except it's also has a really anti-American Judeo-Christian
after taste.
Too heavy on the politically correct agenda aspect. Too unfocused on academic rigor, as the college dean has already commented.
I went to IB and there was not a hint of politics in their teaching. You have been lied to.
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