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Old 09-04-2012, 07:03 PM
 
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Very sad...... ROTTON/STUPID COPS!!! -- WHEN ARE PEOPLE GOING TO SAY ENOUGH??
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Old 09-04-2012, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Homestead Florida
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Very sad indeed. Even if the dog was agressive, he is protecting his owner from a bunch of men who are breaking windows and doors. What's even more sad is this loser who is cultivating marijuana inside his grandmother's house.
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Old 09-04-2012, 10:19 PM
 
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Very sad indeed. Even if the dog was agressive, he is protecting his owner from a bunch of men who are breaking windows and doors. What's even more sad is this loser who is cultivating marijuana inside his grandmother's house.
Yep, Albert and Anthony are big time known drug dealers and Phyllis was involvded up to her sweet little social security check. Although I feel sorry that the dog was shot, this is what happends when you specifically train a pittbull to attack and ORDERED the attack on police (who did identify themself). It may have been a different outcome for the dog had the grandson not make threats that the dog will attack and kill police when ordered. I find it odd they call it a "Pet".
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Old 09-05-2012, 06:05 AM
 
Location: The Great State of Arkansas
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Pacific, can you post a link to a more news-y source for this story as a counter to the original link? That appears to be a copied blog entry and I'm not finding anything in the way of actual news?
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Old 09-05-2012, 06:16 AM
 
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Most dogs like people, but are not happy when groups of men come crashing into their home uninvited. A yapping Pomeranian may or may not be safe in this situation. A Pit Bull or any other large dog, probably is not.
It came up somewhere on this forum, that a medical emergency can put dogs in danger. I've worried what would happen if I were home alone and needed an ambulance, could reach a phone but wouldn't be able to put my dogs away. They like people, but I'm sure they wouldn't understand emergency personell crashing in, and would want to protect me. I don't know whether they'd attack, but no one is going to come into a house with barking pit bulls, and not protect themselves.
She said, the dog wasn't even barking but it's hard to believe the dog wouldn't have been acting protective under the circumstances, no matter how friendly it was. It's a tragedy, but I don't think you can fault the officers.

ETA: My answer to the medical emergency dilemma? If no one else was near enough to help, I'd be half-inclined to just not call 911. Don't tell my husband.
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Old 09-05-2012, 07:07 AM
 
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Not to derail the topic, but this story is told over and over again and the common thread is the unnecessary violence of these raids for everyone involved. It's the drug war in general that causes this and is completely disproportionate to the threat these people pose to society. If you want dogs to stop being shot in their homes, end the war on drugs and these paramilitary raids.
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Old 09-05-2012, 02:21 PM
 
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Not to derail the topic, but this story is told over and over again and the common thread is the unnecessary violence of these raids for everyone involved. It's the drug war in general that causes this and is completely disproportionate to the threat these people pose to society. If you want dogs to stop being shot in their homes, end the war on drugs and these paramilitary raids.

100% agree. The war on drugs is the biggest waste of the taxpayers money.

Like many here, I consider my dog a part of the family. If my dog got shot and killed because of a few marijuana plants, vengeance would be mine in some shape or form.
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Old 09-05-2012, 06:53 PM
 
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Pacific, can you post a link to a more news-y source for this story as a counter to the original link? That appears to be a copied blog entry and I'm not finding anything in the way of actual news?
It was really a non news item. Police conducted a raid on several known drug dealers and manufactures. At one location they were already warned by the suspects that they would kill the police and send their dogs to attack any intruders, During the raid, the occupant ordered their guard dog to attack the police. The police responded to the perceived threat by shooting the dog. Thats it. One of the drug dealing manufacture happen to be 75 years old. The dog is being called a "pet" instead of a trainned attack dog and all sorts of cutsy "pet" traits are being claimed to make the owners of the dog appear like victims instead of criminals.

The local police can be called, they are small enough to provide info and they will give you the name of the local weekly newspaper who will answer questions on this. They don;t have a online version of the actual paper.

Basically, the pittbull crossed from household pet to that of a dangerious defensive weapon, a simple piece of defensive equipment, not a pet. (technicaly, I don;t even think this post should be in this forum based on the "pupose" of the pet forum.)
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Old 09-05-2012, 07:11 PM
 
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This thread has been moved b/c it is not about the dog or its health but about the police, their actions,a and drug dealers.
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Old 09-06-2012, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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Ok I started to dig and found THIS.. I feel bad for the dog BUT as always theres two sides to any story and this is the other side
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For some time police have been monitoring the house for drug activity. Actually, State Police located 60 marijuana plants on the property last year, but could not directly link them to anyone living in the residence.
This year, not only could police link the residents to the marijuana growing operation, but plants and growing paraphernalia were reportedly found within the residence.
Police seized over 100 plants and growing materials and are awaiting the drying and weighing of the plants to make warrant arrests. During the warrant search, one of the first men through the door was an animal lover, confronted by an angry pit bull. (Gee, go figure, alleged drug dealers with a pit bull). The dog reportedly was doing what it was trained to do, protect. The officer made a quick decision to protect himself and fellow officers and a shot was fired. The whole crew felt bad about the shooting.
Why David Vara is full of crap
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Theres much more to the story of course but yanno I wonder why the cops don't carry a catch pole with them to subdue a dog .. because yes sometimes the cops do make a mistake and dogs are killed .. and that shouldnt happen ..
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