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Old 09-08-2012, 10:25 AM
 
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Hitler was a socialist.
He was an authoritarian.

He authored orders.

Sort of like our Executive Orders.
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Old 09-08-2012, 10:29 AM
 
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Very small. The GOP will have enough problems just getting people elected in the coming decades if they continue with the rhetoric they presently use.
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Old 09-08-2012, 10:30 AM
 
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Hitler was a socialist.
Is our history education so poor in this country that we still have folks who argue that Hitler was a socialist?
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Old 09-08-2012, 10:36 AM
 
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Given the current far-right extremist state of the Republican Party, its tactics of voter suppression, efforts to subjugate government to corporate capitalism by defunding it, including destroying the social safety net, cutting taxes for the rich while increasing military spending, attacking labor unions in order to destroy the political power of the middle and working classes; do you think it likely, or unlikely, that they will succeed in turning the United States into a fascist state? Or do you think they would settle for plutarchy, if they were to seize control of the Senate and Presidency?

They obviously want plutarchy, but would this lead to fascism?
The far right fundamentalists want a fascist theocracy. I don't think they'll succeed, but I do think we need to be vigilant, because they're driven by their dogma, which means they'll never stop trying. Which is why the GOP needs to suck it up, kick these anti-Americans out of their party, and move to the more moderate center of the political spectrum. It may cost them an election cycle or two, but I think it's their only chance to survive as a party.
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Old 09-08-2012, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado
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I'd say the likelihood of that happening is comparable to you actually coming to grips with the fact Obama has been a total failure and you deciding not to vote for him again.
He cleans up the Republicans' mess and you call him a failure. I'll assume you are kidding.
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Old 09-08-2012, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Is our history education so poor in this country that we still have folks who argue that Hitler was a socialist?
The same guy who missed out on high school biology once again reveals his ignorance.

From the NSDAP 25 point program:



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11. The abolition of incomes unearned by work.

The breaking of the slavery of interest

12. In view of the enormous sacrifices of life and property demanded of a nation by any war, personal enrichment from war must be regarded as a crime against the nation. We demand therefore the ruthless confiscation of all war profits.
13. We demand the nationalization of all businesses which have been formed into corporations (trusts).
14. We demand profit-sharing in large industrial enterprises.
15. We demand the extensive development of insurance for old age.
16. We demand the creation and maintenance of a healthy middle class, the immediate communalizing of big department stores, and their lease at a cheap rate to small traders, and that the utmost consideration shall be shown to all small traders in the placing of State and municiple orders.
17. We demand a land reform suitable to our national requirements, the passing of a law for the expropriation of land for communal purposes without compensation; the abolition of ground rent, and the prohibition of all speculation in land. *
18. We demand the ruthless prosecution of those whose activities are injurious to the common interest. Common criminals, usurers, profiteers, etc., must be punished with death, whatever their creed or race.
19. We demand that Roman Law, which serves a materialistic world order, be replaced by a German common law.
20. The State must consider a thorough reconstruction of our national system of education (with the aim of opening up to every able and hard-working German the possibility of higher education and of thus obtaining advancement). The curricula of all educational establishments must be brought into line with the requirements of practical life. The aim of the school must be to give the pupil, beginning with the first sign of intelligence, a grasp of the nation of the State (through the study of civic affairs). We demand the education of gifted children of poor parents, whatever their class or occupation, at the expense of the State.
21. The State must ensure that the nation's health standards are raised by protecting mothers and infants, by prohibiting child labor, by promoting physical strength through legislation providing for compulsory gymnastics and sports, and by the extensive support of clubs engaged in the physical training of youth.


Makes Obama look like a right-winger.
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Old 09-08-2012, 10:45 AM
 
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I think the majority of people who are voting for the politicians supporting far right policies will die off in the next 10-20 years and this won't be an issue anymore.
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Old 09-08-2012, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado
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Is our history education so poor in this country that we still have folks who argue that Hitler was a socialist?

I wonder if the Socialists Hitler put into Dachau considered him a Socialist?

I'm going to go with 'no'.
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Old 09-08-2012, 10:47 AM
 
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I wonder if the Socialists Hitler put into Dachau considered him a Socialist?

I'm going to go with 'no'.
Why "no"?

Socialists aren't sociable with EVERYONE.
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Old 09-08-2012, 10:48 AM
 
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I wonder if the Socialists Hitler put into Dachau considered him a Socialist?

I'm going to go with 'no'.
Considering when they arrived all of their possessions were confiscated "for the State" they may very well have still thought he was socialist and just had to learn in the worst way what 20th century progressive socialism really was.

It hasn't changed very much...
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