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Old 09-21-2012, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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I get what you're saying, that still doesn't tell us what % of religious giving goes to actual charity, and how much goes towards paying bishops, maintaining churches, paying for big screen T.Vs when the religious rock bands show up (not to mention paying those religious rock bands), etc.
All of which help people.
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:02 PM
 
Location: NC
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Do you think the SPCA doesn't use money for operating costs?
The SPCA does probably use money for operating costs. However the SPCA doesn't use donations to finance mega malls, cattle ranches and Polynesian resorts, but hey I guess some people define charity different then others.

How the Mormons Make Money - Businessweek
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:02 PM
 
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I was speaking in financial terms.
Okay, but I haven't been.
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:04 PM
 
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All of which help people.
Think of all those people that are employed in the welfare industry - do you justify welfare by the amount of social workers it keeps employed - or would you wonder how that money could be better used?
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:10 PM
 
Location: the AZ desert
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Think of all those people that are employed in the welfare industry - do you justify welfare by the amount of social workers it keeps employed - or would you wonder how that money could be better used?
The difference is taxpayers fund the welfare industry. What is funded by private donations should only be of concern to those making the donations and, to some degree, their recipients. In the latter's case what should be significant is what is done, not how much is spent. Are you planning to donate to the LDS?
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:11 PM
 
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The difference is taxpayers fund the welfare industry. What is funded by private donations should only be of concern to those making the donations and their recipients.
There's no difference - I am not saying where people should be forced to give charity - I am merely saying that a lot of conservative charity giving isn't really charity.
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Okay, but I haven't been.
OK. I didn't say I was receiving too little in edification, just little when compared to what my offering is doing for others.
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:14 PM
 
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Romneys to Release Taxes | The Weekly Standard

Romney gave 4 million out of his 14 million dollar salary to charity - but then I remembered that he is a mormon, and thus the church gets that tithe.

People are always talking about how generous conservatives are compared to liberals, but how much of that is just giving money to churches?
So cheapskate democrats don't give to their churches?
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Think of all those people that are employed in the welfare industry - do you justify welfare by the amount of social workers it keeps employed - or would you wonder how that money could be better used?
I wasn't speaking of just church employees. That band playing the music is assisting in worship. That bigscreen TV is allowing those in overflow seating or those with crying children to worship or learn.
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:18 PM
 
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There's no difference - I am not saying where people should be forced to give charity - I am merely saying that a lot of conservative charity giving isn't really charity.
Depends on your deinition of charity. Churches help people to become better citizens.
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