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I don't get why people don't get longer sentences for this kind of fraud. 18 months and monetary restitution and fines hardly seems to be enough in such a case:
"A wealthy chiropractor and his long-time girlfriend are swapping their $1.2 million waterfront home for prison. The Seattle couple were discovered to be collecting almost $2,000-a-month welfare benefits and even food stamps while living in the luxury property, driving a Jaguar and travelling the world."
I'd be questioning the people down at the welfare office. I thought they were supposed to be checking to make sure one qualified for welfare benefits.
How did all those bank accounts go undetected by the USG ? Credit card companies can get all the dirt on you with just your SS. Even individuals can get checks done when they rent out their homes to people.
Yet this all flew under the radar of our government for 8 years ?
I'd be questioning the people down at the welfare office. I thought they were supposed to be checking to make sure one qualified for welfare benefits.
How did all those bank accounts go undetected by the USG ? Credit card companies can get all the dirt on you with just your SS. Even individuals can get checks done when they rent out their homes to people.
Yet this all flew under the radar of our government for 8 years ?
I haven't read the story yet, but I'm guessing that they did check her income and her assets and these were sufficiently low to qualify, and she's not married so his resources weren't checked.
It costs a lot of money to incarcerate people. This is a non-violent crime. Instead of the 18 months in prison, they really should have been given probation and required to pay back twice the money and volunteer at the food bank or a soup kitchen pretty much every waking hour they're not working for a year or two.
And yet those on the left will claim that there is no need for verifying who is on welfare and if in fact they have a right to this money. It is a system that is filled with cheats. People working under the table and still collecting etc. How does a family on welfare afford a new car every 2 or 3 years? This day and age every loan requires a ssn to apply. How hard would it be to have a system in place that red flags when ever a welfare recipients SSN is used? We have to regester our cars. How hard would it be to red flag when its a welfare recipient?
It costs a lot of money to incarcerate people. This is a non-violent crime. Instead of the 18 months in prison, they really should have been given probation and required to pay back twice the money and volunteer at the food bank or a soup kitchen pretty much every waking hour they're not working for a year or two.
It costs a lot of money to incarcerate people. This is a non-violent crime. Instead of the 18 months in prison, they really should have been given probation and required to pay back twice the money and volunteer at the food bank or a soup kitchen pretty much every waking hour they're not working for a year or two.
Can't people with means actually be charged for the expenses related to their incarceration?
Can't people with means actually be charged for the expenses related to their incarceration?
It depends. It would obviously vary from state to state. In some states those sentenced to the county jail for misdemeanors can be, but not those sent to prison for felonies.
This sort of thing is actually fairly common after the housing bubble. We see it here in Oregon. A couple who sold a house in Marin Co California, move north, buy a huge house and have money left over to buy a Range Rover, then realize we don't really need another yoga studio. So, they go into the welfare office in their Ugg boots and apply for food stamps or welfare. It is true that they have little or not income, and they cannot sell their house for anywhere close to what they paid, but their bubble assets are largely intact, and so you have that haves acting like have nots. A disgusting chapter to be sure.
And yet those on the left will claim that there is no need for verifying who is on welfare and if in fact they have a right to this money. It is a system that is filled with cheats. People working under the table and still collecting etc. How does a family on welfare afford a new car every 2 or 3 years? This day and age every loan requires a ssn to apply. How hard would it be to have a system in place that red flags when ever a welfare recipients SSN is used? We have to regester our cars. How hard would it be to red flag when its a welfare recipient?
Here is what I think should happen:
1) All welfare should have to be paid back anyway.
2) If someone is caught cheating the system, they should have to pay back 2-3 times what they received. The extra money should be used to pay for investigators to investigate fraud. They should also have to do volunteer work, etc.
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