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Old 09-24-2012, 05:59 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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So, what's California's problem?
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Old 09-24-2012, 07:09 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Number 8 is New Mexico, not Montana. It fits the pattern above too. Not so much bible belt as hispanic catholic. Same deal. Lots of Church, lots of teen pregnancies, not enough education.
this was already pointed out in post 5 - as well as the fact they voted for obama, which seems to fit your 'pattern' much less well
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Old 09-24-2012, 07:33 AM
 
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So, what's California's problem?
liberalism
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Old 09-24-2012, 07:43 AM
 
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This is the irony -- the liberals are actually the ones most benefitting from the importation of poverty and lowering wages. They talk a good two-faced line - they pump up all this "hate the rich" but the liberals are the rich.
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:01 AM
 
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So, what's California's problem?

Nothing. They were hit hard by the housing bust.

But, California still is an engine of the US economy. It is a hub of business, leading American technological and scientific superiority. It creates. It innovates. It drives our culture and progress forward.


Can't say the same about "low unemployment states" like North Dakota, which apparently exists for extraction of natural resources. Kinda like the middle east.
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:29 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Why are red states the 10 poorest in the U.S.?
Cost of living factors into it. Salaries are lower where housing costs, etc., are lower.

If you're trying to make a point about welfare, we already know this...
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It was interesting to read a thread posted by a liberal who suggested that republicans recieve more federal aid than democrats, given that many "red states" recieve more tax dollars than they send to Washington. This is for a variety of reasons, including farm subsidies, maintenance of dams, locks, and ports, national parks, and military facilities.

However, THE MAJORITY OF WELFARE RECIPIENTS ARE DEMOCRATS.

Super-Economy: Are Welfare Recipients mostly Republican?


Is it any wonder that the dems keep handing out "treats" for votes, thus bankrupting the nation?
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Better to be Proud and Poor than to ever admit the poverty is your own fault.
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:38 AM
 
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Better to be Proud and Poor than to ever admit the poverty is your own fault.

As it usualy is.
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:57 AM
 
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This has been discussed before. It's not a red state problem, it's a Southern problem. Compare the stats from struggling red states in the South to highly successful red states in the great plains and western US. Places like Nebraska, Kansas, Utah and the Dakotas are at the top of many scales of success, like low unemployment, low crime, high graduation rates, high livability, etc.

Who's surprised that incomes are lower in places where the cost of living is lower? The average house in California is twice as expensive as the average house in Mississippi.
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Old 09-24-2012, 09:00 AM
 
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I could never understand why the poorest states in the union vote Republican. I mean why would the poor vote to slash programs designed to help the poor.

Mississippi, I understand, is known to have poor educational standards, maybe that's why they vote to punish themselves. It's called ignorance.

This is why! Many poor only vote on the social issues.

Goodbye to All That: Reflections of a GOP Operative Who Left the Cult

Commies. Socialists. Ragheads. Secular humanists. Blacks. ****. Feminazis. The list may change with the political Among the GOP base, there is constant harping about somebody else, some "other," who is Subversives. needs deliberately, assiduously and with malice aforethought subverting the Good, the True and the Beautiful: of the moment, but they always seem to need a scapegoat to hate and fear.
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