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Old 10-13-2012, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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How does the left explain Obama AND the State dept coming out with exactly the lie saying it was a vido if they didn't consult each other. Coincidence? I don't think so.?

The Libyans, the security experts, the media, all thought it was a video for about 6 days.

How could you not connect those dots. We are talking about something that would equate to a out of hand protest in Houston, and an attack on a building related to the reason of the protest in Dallas. How could those dots not seem right?

There are videos of Egyptians storming the Embassy walls in Cairo also, doesn't mean they were terrorists.

Look, I don't think we should have been in Libya at all, and thats what I take issue with. But this monday morning quaterback **** is pathetic.

If there had been extra security, they would have been in Tripoli, to far away to help in Bengazi.

Bad **** happens, we are trying to find those responsible, and learn from mistakes made. Just like 9/11, and heres another kicker, the same people that gave Bush a pass for not connecting the 9/11/01 dots, are the same ones blaming Obama now. The same people that wanted to bury Bush for the missing the 9/11/01 dots, are ok with not connecting the dots in 9/11/12.

I don't blame either President for those failures, they happen, but its the aftermath that must be watched. And 5 days out isn't a long time to think it wasn't related to the video.
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Old 10-13-2012, 04:32 PM
 
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Was there another attack at less distance then Houston is to Dallas the same day?

As has been said many times, hindsight is 20/20. We could say the same thing about 9/11 in the months and weeks after. Bush ignored the signs, but no one wanted the Embassy overrun.

Here's the kicker, all this talk about "extra security", would have been based in Tripoli, not in Bengazi.
You have your so-called facts wrong. We can run 2, some say 3. wars at one time and you are claiming we can't have adequate security for all our embassy's and consulates?

Bush did NOT ignore the signs, You need to bone up on history.

I am more concerned as to what intel did Obama AND the State dept use to come to the decision and stay with it even after it was conformed, to conclude that the attack in Benghazi was due to a video AND claim there were protests that dau, which we now know wasn't true.
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Old 10-13-2012, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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You have your so-called facts wrong. We can run 2, some say 3. wars at one time and you are claiming we can't have adequate security for all our embassy's and consulates?

Bush did NOT ignore the signs, You need to bone up on history.

I am more concerned as to what intel did Obama AND the State dept use to come to the decision and stay with it even after it was conformed, to conclude that the attack in Benghazi was due to a video AND claim there were protests that dau, which we now know wasn't true.

No, if there was extra security its a fact they would have been in tripoli.

Should we have had extra security? Its obviously a yes now. But we didn't know that we needed extra security in Bengazi, just "Libya", in which all the marines would have been in Tripoli, a two hour drive and a hour flight at least from Bengazi.

Monday morning quarterbacking isn't going to be any good. If this proves anything, we shouldn't have had an embassy in Libya to begin with.
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Old 10-13-2012, 04:45 PM
 
Location: right here
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Ya, she could get a life-long "job" bought and paid like loser Ollie did after Watergate.

It wasn't Watergate...get your facts straight...Iran Contra Affair...


Well Hillary is going to have to do something...or she can kiss 2016 goodbye. There is no reason in hell she will take the fall for Obama.
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Old 10-13-2012, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Deepest Darkest NZ
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It wasn't Watergate...get your facts straight...Iran Contra Affair...


Well Hillary is going to have to do something...or she can kiss 2016 goodbye. There is no reason in hell she will take the fall for Obama.
As neither the President nor Hillary were responsible I fail to see why either should 'take the fall.'
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Old 10-13-2012, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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As neither the President nor Hillary were responsible I fail to see why either should 'take the fall.'
Right. He's the Pres, she's the Secretary of State, and our ambassador was murdered on the anniversary of 9/11. They bear no responsiblity whatsoever. It's not like they 're in charge or anything.

Besides, he had fundraisers to attend, she needed to have her ponytail tightened.

No less than under Bush, incompetence is rampant in this administration. Its defenders are simply more likely to shop at Amazon than WalMart.

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Old 10-13-2012, 05:01 PM
 
Location: right here
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As neither the President nor Hillary were responsible I fail to see why either should 'take the fall.'

You are kidding right? She is the Secretary of State-and Obama is the President..

Is anything Obama's fault?
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Old 10-13-2012, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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This is the "Not My Fault" administration. They only take credit for good things and find someone to blame for bad things.
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Old 10-13-2012, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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This is the "Not My Fault" administration. They only take credit for good things and find someone to blame for bad things.
Which puts them squarely in the mainstream of American politics.
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Old 10-13-2012, 05:34 PM
 
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The Libyans, the security experts, the media, all thought it was a video for about 6 days.

How could you not connect those dots. We are talking about something that would equate to a out of hand protest in Houston, and an attack on a building related to the reason of the protest in Dallas. How could those dots not seem right?

There are videos of Egyptians storming the Embassy walls in Cairo also, doesn't mean they were terrorists.

Look, I don't think we should have been in Libya at all, and thats what I take issue with. But this monday morning quaterback **** is pathetic.

If there had been extra security, they would have been in Tripoli, to far away to help in Bengazi.

Bad **** happens, we are trying to find those responsible, and learn from mistakes made. Just like 9/11, and heres another kicker, the same people that gave Bush a pass for not connecting the 9/11/01 dots, are the same ones blaming Obama now. The same people that wanted to bury Bush for the missing the 9/11/01 dots, are ok with not connecting the dots in 9/11/12.

I don't blame either President for those failures, they happen, but its the aftermath that must be watched. And 5 days out isn't a long time to think it wasn't related to the video.
Obama was still blaming the video on 9/25 in his U.N. speech. Libya knew it wasn't the video. Even CNN was hearing from sources that "from day one we had known clearly that this was a terrorist attack." There was no evidence of anything but a premeditated terrorist attack in Benghazi. Obama didn't want Al Qaeda on the front pages.
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