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Old 10-17-2012, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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But, those are facts... they don't want that!
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Old 10-17-2012, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Apple Valley Calif
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I'm done here.
You were done long, long ago..
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Old 10-17-2012, 09:08 AM
 
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News Flash: The Fear of Communism died in the 90s. Freaking makes you look paranoid and out of touch.

But communism does still exist. There are people still out there pushing for communism. Communism is not dead.
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Old 10-17-2012, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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DC - thank you for the correction. I did indeed mean privatizing profits and socializing loss.

BTW - I am a proponent of government ownership of natural monopolies and resources. That makes me a socialist and I can say Mr. Obama is certainly not.
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Old 10-17-2012, 09:08 AM
 
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If you understood the definition of those two systems, you wouldn't be so puzzled and pained.

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Liberals always get defensive when a conservative accuses Obama of being one of those things, but I have not heard a liberal truly explain how Obama is not one. The fact remains that Obama was raised by communists, he had a communist mentor growing up, he is good friends with communists, he was recently endorsed by the Communist Party USA(the first president to be endorsed by CPUSA). He has also repeatedly made communist-type speeches, like "spreading the wealth around" and "you didn't build that." Obama has also been on record before becoming president talking about the need for government ran media and a government ran business and banking sector. 1995 Video of Barack Obama Talking About Collectivism and American History Resurfaces | Video | TheBlaze.com I have even heard liberals say we would be better off losing some rights. I heard one Obama supporter on a Facebook group recently say she wanted to shut down the Tea Party(a 1st Amendment recognized group). Not to mention he is pals with people like Sandra Fluke who wants to see the 1st Amendment right to religious freedom violated to provide free contraception to women.

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2016: Obama's America | Official Movie Site

Socialism, Marxism, Communism & Obama

If Obama Wins: Democrats Reveal Plans to Fundamentally Transform America Independent Journal Review

Exposed: Obama's socialist network >> Four Winds 10 - Truth Winds

Articles: Obama's Communist Party Endorsement

Roots Of Obama's Rage Trace To Kenyan Father's Communist Hatred For West - Investors.com
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Old 10-17-2012, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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But communism does still exist. There are people still out there pushing for communism. Communism is not dead.
And, still, you can't explain it.
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Old 10-17-2012, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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EACH HAS A FULL BIO..



Obama Surrounds Himself With The Most Extreme Appointees In American History
The Regulatory Czar – Cass Sunstein
He supports massive gun control and doesn’t believe the 2nd Amendment is an individual right.

Climate Czar – Todd Stern

Science Czar – John Holdren
In the event of a “over-population crises,” Holdren supports “laws requiring compulsory abortion,” government confiscation of new born babies, the “development of a long-term sterilizing capsule that could be implanted under the skin,” and, incredibly, “adding a sterilant to drinking water or stable foods….”


Chief Diversity Officer, Federal Communications Commission – Mark Lloyd

Attorney General – Eric Holder

Deputy Attorney General – David Ogden

Solicitor General – Elena Kagan


Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel – Dawn Johnson


Assistant Deputy Secretary, Department of Education – Kevin Jennings


United States Ambassador to United Nations – Susan Rice


Counsel, State Department – Harold Koh

National Security Council – Samantha Power

Advisor, Under-Secretary of Defense for Policy – Rosa Brooks

This genius wrote that Al-Qaeda was just an “obscure group” until America began the war on terrorism, ignoring all the documentation that Al-Qaeda was making plans for rapid growth long before 9/11.


White House Staff
Senior Advisor and Assistant to the President for Public Engagement and Intergovernmental Affairs – Valerie Jarrett

For example, she was aware that former Green Czar Van Jones (who withdrew) had a long history of involvement in Communist Party causes, but still said she was “delighted to be able to recruit him into the White House



Political advisor – David Axelrod


Director of the White House Office of Energy and Climate Change – Carol Browner



General Counsel and Senior Policy Advisor, Office of Management & Budget – Preeta Bansal


Director of Intergovernmental Affairs, Executive office of the President — Cecilia Munoz

Munoz is a hard-core open borders advocate who served recently as the Vice President for the National Council of La Raza (NCLR), where she supervised all legislative activities

Director, Domestic Policy Council – Melody Barnes
She favors unrestricted abortions for any reason at any time of pregnancy.




Obama Surrounds Himself with the Most Extreme Appointees in American History
You're citing a right-wing blog?
Really?
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Old 10-17-2012, 09:13 AM
 
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No, that is your perception. Obama is rich. Warren Buffet is rich. Bill Gates is rich. And they all agree, that reducing burden (not increasing them) on the poor is the proper way, to expand the middle class and make it stronger is the right way to a prosperous America which benefits EVERYBODY, including rich folks like themselves.

But then, perceptions seem to define your way of life and choices you make. It is why, I don't think you'd even touch explaining communism and socialism, as your abilities are limited to simply name-calling.


The least you could do is strive for a bit of self-respect.
No, the rich pay the most in taxes. While there are poor who didn't chose that lifestyle and would like to move beyond it, there are those who just live off the system because they think the government owes them something. Check this out:


Original Obamaphone Lady: Obama Voter Says Vote for Obama because he gives a free Phone - YouTube

Obama Supporter: "Government Owes Me Mo' Money" - Busted In Acadiana
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Old 10-17-2012, 09:13 AM
 
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If Obama is a socialist or a communist, he does not need to be re-elected. I voted for Obama in 2008 but I have no plans to vote for him again. I have googled this and have found no real answers. There is a very simple solution to this problem: JUST VOTE THE GUY OUT!!
Unfortunately, the other option is far far worse. Had you guys actually put a decent Republican candidate up against Obama, I might be more inclined to cross party lines. But you didn't. I will not vote for a religious nut job who calls half the country worthless, thinks women should be barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen, wants to ban gays from ever getting married, whines about poor people not paying taxes, while he pays less taxes on hundreds of millions of dollars than poor people pay on 20 thousand, and who wants to start a war with Iran.
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Old 10-17-2012, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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He is too lazy to make it up himself.
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