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Old 10-17-2012, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Romney was questioned about specifics of his economic and tax plan last night. That is fair, he has never laid out the entire plan and deserves to be nailed for it. Why didn't Crowler in turn question Obama about his "plan". Is it any different than that of the last four years? The only thing we have heard is "tax the rich" and calls for class envy. Does Obama have anything more? (or Romney for that matter?)
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Old 10-17-2012, 09:15 AM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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I have the impression, from your comments, that you didn't watch or listen to the debate last evening. You can probably find it on youtube. Then you'll learn that your comments are a bit odd, relative to what the facts are.
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Old 10-17-2012, 09:16 AM
 
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I have the impression, from your comments, that you didn't watch or listen to the debate last evening. You can probably find it on youtube. Then you'll learn that your comments are a bit odd, relative to what the facts are.
He didn't lay out anything but more hope and change promises from 4 years ago.
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Old 10-17-2012, 09:16 AM
 
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It is a good point. Mr. Obama's big idea is a one trillion dollar tax increase that is supposed to magically fix a 10 trillion dollar problem.
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Old 10-17-2012, 09:21 AM
 
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It is a good point. Mr. Obama's big idea is a one trillion dollar tax increase that is supposed to magically fix a 10 trillion dollar problem.
Exactly.
What are the DETAILS of Obama's plan?
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Old 10-17-2012, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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I have the impression, from your comments, that you didn't watch or listen to the debate last evening. You can probably find it on youtube. Then you'll learn that your comments are a bit odd, relative to what the facts are.
Oh, I watched it. Obama and Romney both spouted platitudes without specifics. Obama continued his "tax the rich" whine. But was not asked for specifics...nor did he volunteer any.

Without a plan to do something different, it's reasonable to expect more fo the same. Out of control defecits. Busting the debt ceiling every 6 months. No effort to address the failing Social Security system. Nothing done to shore up Medicare or Medicaid. Falling US credit ratings. High unemployement. Increasing regulation and taxes on US energy producers. More of the same Obama legacy.

Not that Mitt has really laid out a plan for anything different (with the exception of energy).
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Old 10-17-2012, 09:37 AM
 
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Obama always pivots away from questions and goes into speech mode. I hear Obama's plan and it more green energy investment at the expense of private sector jobs. More government at the expense of private sector jobs. Coddle the entitlement population. Obama's plan is more of the same. Huge government spending, Green Energy, not much else.

The rich will continue to sit on large amount of cash under Obama resulting in very slow growth.

I've always noticed that even working Americans have an entitlement attitude than we want to admit and realize. People think just because they live in the U.S. they are entitled to jobs when in fact if the company you work for does not do well it will result in the downsizing of jobs. If there is an increase in expenses the first expense take the hit is employees either through layoffs, moved to part time and freeze on wages. I this mentality on this forum. No one is entitled to a job and you should always hope your company does well or it will cost jobs.
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Old 10-17-2012, 01:38 PM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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Without a plan to do something different, it's reasonable to expect more fo the same. Out of control defecits. Busting the debt ceiling every 6 months. No effort to address the failing Social Security system. Nothing done to shore up Medicare or Medicaid. Falling US credit ratings. High unemployement. Increasing regulation and taxes on US energy producers. More of the same Obama legacy.
Really? And you've never heard of the U.S. Congress, and it's role in our government? Or, you agree with the anti-American stance of the GOP in Congress? Whatever it you're trying to sell, move on down the road.
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Old 10-17-2012, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Really? And you've never heard of the U.S. Congress, and it's role in our government? Or, you agree with the anti-American stance of the GOP in Congress? Whatever it you're trying to sell, move on down the road.
Do try to keep up, the US congress wasn't in in the debate last night, the presidential candidates were. Pretty sad try at deflection.
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Old 10-17-2012, 05:44 PM
 
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Romney was questioned about specifics of his economic and tax plan last night. That is fair, he has never laid out the entire plan and deserves to be nailed for it. Why didn't Crowler in turn question Obama about his "plan". Is it any different than that of the last four years? The only thing we have heard is "tax the rich" and calls for class envy. Does Obama have anything more? (or Romney for that matter?)

To my knowledge Romney has never laid out the details of his job growth plan other than the plan to reduce income tax rate on small business and to eliminate Obamacare.

Eliminating Obamacare is an odd way to grow jobs since with Obamacare more people than ever before will seek out health care, and the insurance companies will also have more business. As well, a sicker population doesn't bode well for job growth.

By endorsing the Ryan budget Romney has indicated hat he will cut a huge chunk out of what is called "Other Mandatory" spending in the federal budget which includes: education, Pell grants, research and innovation funding, infrastructure, transportation, and assistance to working families.

Cutting these areas of funding will not add jobs, but will cause job loss. He will cut infrastructure alone by $78 billion, whereas the Obama budget would increase it. Not only is America in dire need of work on its crumbling infrastructure, it's also a way to add jobs.
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