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Old 11-04-2012, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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There is no Martial Law going on in NJ or NY. You people need to get a grip and by the way, Obama cannot declare Martial Law in individul cities, only a governor can do that.
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:45 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Those people don't know what Martial Law means. A curfew isn't Marshal Law. Restricting access the unsafe island isn't Martial Law.
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:48 AM
 
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The gas mains on seaside are leaking and unstable. It's incredibly dangerous there which is why people were asked to leave.

Martial law has not been declared.
Why not just turn off the gas -- which is what they should have done before this storm hit, especially when they didn't know it would downsize.

It was the rupturing gas lines that caused those homes in NY to explode and burn down. Certainly there is some kind of main valve at the stations that could be turned off. The government could just inform the residents that gas was being shut off instead of acting like some big thug giving them 5 minutes to get out. And why wasn't any of this anticipated before now?
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:49 AM
 
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There is no Martial Law going on in NJ or NY. You people need to get a grip and by the way, Obama cannot declare Martial Law in individul cities, only a governor can do that.
Forcing people out of their homes and giving them just 5 minutes to pack up and evacuate by force is just as bad as martial law. 5 minutes notice? And the storm happened almost a week ago.

Very very poor planning.
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Having gone through a similar disaster last year I'd agree with the Martial law. For one thing in such an area there is very little room to operate, streets become clogged with debris etc. Keeping people out that don't belong there is essential to speed the cleanup.
This.
Imagine the horror if those people were allowed to move back and one of those gas lines blew?
Sometimes hard decisions have to be made, and this is one of those times.
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:54 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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They were already not supposed to be there - Seaside was a mandatory evacuation area.
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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Forcing people out of their homes and giving them just 5 minutes to pack up and evacuate by force is just as bad as martial law. 5 minutes notice? And the storm happened almost a week ago.

Very very poor planning.
How about an actual link showing this is happening instead of a youtube video which could be coming from anywhere.
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:58 AM
 
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This.
Imagine the horror if those people were allowed to move back and one of those gas lines blew?
Sometimes hard decisions have to be made, and this is one of those times.
Why is the gas still on? It shouldn't have taken a whole lot of thinking to realize they could have been turned off before the storm even hit. What's the point in allowing the gas to still go through pipes they know are ruptured? Isn't that rather wasteful in itself?
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:59 AM
 
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How about an actual link showing this is happening instead of a youtube video which could be coming from anywhere.
I just checked before I posted on the NJ forum and it seemed that people are being given 5 minutes to pack and get out -- it's a forced evacuation -- this long after the storm.
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Old 11-04-2012, 09:00 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Why is the gas still on? It shouldn't have taken a whole lot of thinking to realize they could have been turned off before the storm even hit. What's the point in allowing the gas to still go through pipes they know are ruptured? Isn't that rather wasteful in itself?
If you would bother to do the slightest amount of research, you'd find out why.
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