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Old 11-06-2012, 04:33 PM
 
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I hate to tell you this but the reasons why we don't is because we know conservatives are usually always right about topics and subjects. Therefore, conservatives begin attacking the liberal points and their views, and then we realize that we cannot carry on with meaningful discussions with people who think they're right all of the time. Yes, we liberals know how pathetic conservatives are and discussions with such are truly meaningless. How does that saying go? you can't argue with a sick mind?
Show me a liberal who is afraid the exchange in a discussion, and I'll show you people all over the forum who are spoon fed fox (faux) news, and base their threads upon faux talking bird dog points.


Are you sure about that, I distinctly recall people (conservatives) mocking president Obama by posting photos depicting him as a nazi-socialist-marxist-racist, communist among other things. is this the pot/kettle analogy?
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You see you just made my point for me, thanks! The liberal lefties always use the actions of the radical fringe element on the right to demonize the entire right. Thanks for playing!

 
Old 11-06-2012, 04:36 PM
 
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Black people aren't Americans. *both fists slam on desk*
What?
 
Old 11-06-2012, 04:37 PM
 
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You see you just made my point for me, thanks! The liberal lefties always use the actions of the radical fringe element on the right to demonize the entire right. Thanks for playing!
You guys seem to make no effort to distance yourself from the radical extremists.

Why do you think we should respect views not based on evidence or logic, and only seek to hurt other people?
 
Old 11-06-2012, 04:39 PM
 
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Using the hate meme is only one of their tactics.

Paid poster, troll, racist, etc. are others.

It only proves that Liberals merely pay lip service to the word "tolerance".
 
Old 11-06-2012, 04:40 PM
 
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Liberals (and increasingly, moderates) realized where the country was heading shortly after the media debut of Limbaugh 35 years ago. This is the voice of corporate fascism, now greatly expanded in the corporate-owned media. You do not "debate" the agents of this ideology. Plutocracy is wrong for America, pure and simple. No discussion!
"Hatred" for plutocracy, fascism, fascists, their dupes and purveyors, is well-placed. Not a thing wrong with it.

Racism is a form of hatred, yet the Right tells liberals to shut up about it because it's a minor concern. The Right knows better, and tolerance of it is a form of hatred.
Denial of human rights whether gay, minority, women's, equal pay for equal work, are forms of hate.
The right-wing beliefs of Ayn Rand are based on hatred of others (these are some of your republican candidates - including your VP).
There is more than this, but charges of right-wing hate are well-founded throughout our history.
Oh, and where did you hear that liberals are "afraid" of discussion? Issues are being discussed all the time - just not in your world apparently.
Your "question" is not a question at all, but a feel-good outburst worthy of Fox News IMO.
Yet another example of the stereotyping of the right by the liberal left. You guys are making Harrier's and my points for us quite well and yet you are all still clueless that you do it? Read your own posts for evidence!
 
Old 11-06-2012, 04:41 PM
 
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I've asked some of the uber-conservatives here if they've actually read the book. The question is always ignored. Always.
I'm just challenging your ad hominem.

It's a great book. But all sides do it. Try discussing Rand with Leftists. Which is really odd because Rand is the best ideological weapon there is against the Right for anyone who pressures others to live up to their book, as Alinsky advises.
 
Old 11-06-2012, 04:42 PM
 
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This is a common tactic - and a very dishonest one.

If someone expresses an opinion that a liberal disagrees with - they will invariably post something along the lines that the holder of that opinion "hates" something.

Since hatred is universally held as an ugly and negative emotion - the only motive for the use of this word could be to shut down deate - instead of arguing something based on its merits.

The tactic is dishonest, mean-spirited, patheitc, fallacial, and almost exclusively used by liberals.

Why do liberals seem so afraid to engage in a discussion and instead use hyperbole and mischaracterization to frame the argument?

Crapola...

Short memory, or selective memory?
 
Old 11-06-2012, 04:44 PM
 
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You guys seem to make no effort to distance yourself from the radical extremists.

Why do you think we should respect views not based on evidence or logic, and only seek to hurt other people?
Who's you guys? Most on the right do not associate with the radical fringe but if you didn't claim so what you have?
 
Old 11-06-2012, 04:50 PM
 
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Who's you guys? Most on the right do not associate with the radical fringe but if you didn't claim so what you have?
Most of the conservative posters here seem to align with the radical fringe. At the very least, the vocal frequent posters.

There is so much gay hate on this board, I've even had moderators tell me it's getting out of hand how nasty conservatives are towards gays. And the very same people are almost always the ones who claim to be devout, compassionate Christians. Which is seriously the most laughable thing I've ever heard. Jesus wasn't a nasty gay hating conservative who claimed gays molest children and infect everyone with AIDS on a regular basis.
 
Old 11-06-2012, 04:58 PM
 
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Most of the conservative posters here seem to align with the radical fringe. At the very least, the vocal frequent posters.

There is so much gay hate on this board, I've even had moderators tell me it's getting out of hand how nasty conservatives are towards gays. And the very same people are almost always the ones who claim to be devout, compassionate Christians. Which is seriously the most laughable thing I've ever heard. Jesus wasn't a nasty gay hating conservative who claimed gays molest children and infect everyone with AIDS on a regular basis.

Yeah, yeah... anyone who doesn't toe the line of your dogma is "radical fringe". /boggle

Again though, you prove the point of the OP.

You translate disagreement with a given position as "hate". It is why it infuriates you that someone disagrees and you lash out at them with accusations of "hate" so you do not have to consider the validity of your own position.
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