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If you were watching the companies that laid people off right after Obama was re-elected, you might have noticed that a lot of them were medical technology/medical device companies - like Welch Allyn, Smith & Nephew, Medtronic. What I know these companies for is Welch Allyn - electronic health record development, Smith & Nephew - makes artificial joints for hip/knee replacements. Medtronic - makes pacemakers. There are others, but these three I remember off the top of my head and have personal knowledge of some of their contributions to medicine. Somewhere in Obamacare there is a "medical device tax" that apparently these companies know will affect them.
Nice try. I guess if you search enough you can find anything on the internet to "prove" your point. But the truth is, the majority of doctors disagree.
The Doctor discusses various things, but the most important are
1. Doctors will start picking what patients they will accept.
2. More patients will have to go to hospitals for care.
3. Increased cost for Insurance, due to blanket coverage for everyone, including those with pre-existing conditions.
4. Shortage of Doctors.
5. Less innovation, less biomedical research, less drug research.
All this we knew would be the result of ObamaCare. The left was in denial. They still are. They are soon to get a good lesson in reality.
"Marc Siegel MD is an associate professor of medicine and medical director of Doctor Radio at NYU Langone Medical Center. He is a member of the Fox News Medical A Team"
He is part of the management of a Sirius XM station and he has a slot at Fox. In short, he's a broadcaster with a medical background. As Judge Judy is to law, Marc Siegel is to medicine.
Oh, yes, but since he is featured on Fox News, he is automatically discreditted, don't you see? It doesn't matter what his credentials are.
This is the leftist mindset: Anything reported by Fox is faux.
If this man had said the same on moron.org, they might be listening (dubious, as they do not have ears that can hear).
"Bottom line: my patients who gain a new insurance card may find that it doesn't buy them the care they were expecting."
And the bottom line of the bottom line is: once they have an insurance card, in many cases for the first time in their lives, they will not give it up. If the care it provides isn't up to scratch, no one is going to cry out for a return to the bad old days. Instead, there will be enormous pressure for an improved version, which is likely to be some take on single-payer or UHC.
The intent of ObamaCare always has been a "single payer system." Obama himself told the SEIU that was the goal.
Correct. Nothing to me, but they surely mean the world to you.
When reality hits you in the not too distant future (begining in 2013), you might be singing a different tune. Hope you love all your new taxes, and the reduction in your income. It's all coming. No one will be imune.
Very tough times are ahead, thanks to people like you.
There is no need to deny shortcomings of liberalism, but it is chump change compared to idiocy of the authoritarians. I would rather deal with liberals and the problem they might bring as a baggage than let the authoritarian buffoons run a muck. Hence.
Now, if you wanted to debate progressivism versus conservatism... why the heck would anybody want to live in a cave with tribal laws?
where have you ever claimed a shortcoming of liberalism.?
The fact you think conservatives believe in living in a cave definitely shows your complete in ability to address issues and reach any sort of compromise which is why we are about to go over a cliff,
Because you and I are a dichotomy of the senate and house a complete inability to speak respectfully and come to any sort of mutual agreement. And for that you blame me and for that i blame you so here comes the cliff
The intent of ObamaCare always has been a "single payer system." Obama himself told the SEIU that was the goal.
Yes, he did. Then he backed away for reasons of political expediency: he needed the Blue Poodles to pass the bill. But, fortunately, he and the rest of the reality-based population see that single-payer is the only realistic way to contain costs, and therefore preferable and inevitable.
That would be the days when insurance wasn't required to cover everything under the Sun, as it should not.
I'll bet as insurance was required to cover more and more, a greater number of people opted out of carrying it due to the ever increasing costs this caused.
In turn making it less affordable for greater numbers of wouuld be subscribers.
ACA doesn't have the failures you describe.
Those were built in intentionally for the purpose of, as I posted above, forcing a single payer system.
Yes, forcing.
Another crafted government emergency.
This is no way to govern and holds no honor.
You'll bet, eh? If I were a gambling woman I'd take you up on it. Most people get their ins. through their employers and don't really pay a lot of attention to what the ins. covers.
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Originally Posted by Ivorytickler
When I was a kid, insurance only covered you in event of a catastrophe. Everything else was pay as you go. Doctors, however, often helped families in need and there was the state health department as well. I remember going to the state health department with my mom to pick up my brother's GG shots and running them to the doctor who administered them twice a week. I remember him pushing checks back at my mom telling her was ok when she tried to pay him.
Too bad all we have today is gimme, gimme, gimme....
Who is to say what insurance "should" cover? Who was appointed to do that?
Not all doctors did as above, and the health dept, in case you haven't figured this out, is a government agency, supported by taxes. In addition, not all health departments provide direct care services.
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When I was a kid, insurance only covered you in event of a catastrophe. Everything else was pay as you go. Doctors, however, often helped families in need and there was the state health department as well. I remember going to the state health department with my mom to pick up my brother's GG shots and running them to the doctor who administered them twice a week. I remember him pushing checks back at my mom telling her was ok when she tried to pay him. 
