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Old 11-16-2012, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Inyokern, CA
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Hey Einstein, I am not left or right wing, in fact I quit wasting my time voting because I am with the reality party. We did not have a candidate on the ballot.
If you didn't vote you probably elected BO. Shame, shame, shame for those of your position who brought forth another 4 years of destruction to America. If you would have voted for BO, shame, shame, shame for the same reason.
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Inyokern, CA
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One additional point: according to the same table, there are just 532,391 firms which employ between 20 and 99 employees, for a total of about 21 million employees.

As we know, firms with more than 50 employees have always been required to provide insurance - the ACA merely requires these large firms to provide better ("affordable and adequate") insurance if they haven't already. ...
No, not true. This "requirement" is a more recent government mandate. Up until that time it was at the discretion of the employer, which included any employer agreeing to such a Union "benefit."

For years it was based upon some employers believing that if health insurance was included as a benefit it would attract better qualified employees.
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:34 PM
 
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If you didn't vote you probably elected BO. Shame, shame, shame for those of your position who brought forth another 4 years of destruction to America. If you would have voted for BO, shame, shame, shame for the same reason.
Oh stop it.

"Destruction to America"? The only destruction to America being wrought here is by those who are throwing out half truths, outright lies, and hyperbolic propaganda at a rate unforeseen in this country of people who didn't used to whine as a fuil time job.
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Inyokern, CA
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Several hundred?

What was a business with several hundred workers doing without health insurance provisions already?

It makes no sense that Obamacare was the cause of the layoffs.

What proof do you have that that's why they were laid off/terminated?
It sure does when those receiving the pink slips were told "POINT BLANK" it is because of BO, BOCare and BO policies.
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Inyokern, CA
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If businesses want to shrink, they can choose to. If there is a demand for the business, someone else will grab the opportunity.

BTW, did you know 8.8 million pink slips were issued in just two years BEFORE Obamacare?
And...WHO was in charge of both the House and Senate and sped up the final plunge into economic deep, deep problems? VBG Oh, that's after 6 years before that of constant filabuster and/or threats of same to stop all legislation to prevent today's mess!
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Inyokern, CA
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Oh stop it.

"Destruction to America"? The only destruction to America being wrought here is by those who are throwing out half truths, outright lies, and hyperbolic propaganda at a rate unforeseen in this country of people who didn't used to whine as a fuil time job.
Remember your denials when you finally pull you head out of the sand and take a look around.
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:50 PM
 
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Remember your denials when you finally pull you head out of the sand and take a look around.
I'd say that your head is still firmly planted IN the sand.

The GOP --in firm, blockheaded denial...
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Old 11-16-2012, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Moderate conservative for Obama.
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Not a big fan of Obamacare myself but it must be said that some 1,700 waivers have been granted, largely to unions and their members, as well as to a few favored corporations on the grounds they couldn't afford the president's affordable health care.

Read More At IBD: ObamaCare's True 10-Year Cost Out By CBO At $1.76 Trillion - Investors.com

There are some OP-Out clause
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Old 11-16-2012, 01:07 PM
 
Location: North America
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It sure does when those receiving the pink slips were told "POINT BLANK" it is because of BO, BOCare and BO policies.

Glenn Beck, is that you??
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Old 11-16-2012, 01:21 PM
 
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My point is, that the declarations that the ACA will be the death of small businesses holds no water.
Again, ironic how the "poor" never owned a business thinks they know it all. If ACA doesn't get small business the expiration of the Bush tax cuts will. Perfectly by design. Guaranteed all hospitals will be unionized by 2014. Who benefits from that? The unions of course.

All that will be left is the super rich and the very poor.
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