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Old 11-23-2012, 04:03 PM
 
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[quote=cometclear;27063961]Approximately voted in the same percentages for John Kerry and Bill Clinton and Al Gore. We have enormous data that demonstrates that blacks are willing to vote for whites. On the other hands, why have whites been so unwilling historically to vote for blacks? Going beyond Obama, observe the campaigns of Herman "999" Cain and Alan Keyes and Jesse Jackson.

Why are so many whites uncomfortable voting for blacks? How many blacks have you voted for?[/QUOTE]

That should be a thread.
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Old 11-23-2012, 04:30 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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Oh yes. That makes sense. That's why Republicans like Condoleeza Rice, Herman Cain, Col. Allen West, Dr. Thomas Sowell, Clarence Thomas, Mia Love, Artur Davis, (un-hyphenated American) are all so hated by the Republicans.
Condi = bush b*tch that had no respect for her past
West = should have been given a dishonorable discharge from the military
Thomas = see condi, no respect for his own history
Cain = for real? the purest form of tokenism that I have ever seen since Uncle Toms Cabin

Love = why could'nt she win in republican state as a blackwoman if they love her so much?

Davis = no probelm with him at all

Why was'nt Colin Powell mentioned? Was it because he spoke for what he believed in and was not going to be a republican puppet eventhough he is a republican?
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Old 11-23-2012, 04:46 PM
 
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What open hostility? The GOP is just reacting to reality, Blacks have shown no indication that they'll vote for the GOP. George Bush Jr did the best among Blacks for a GOP candidate and he received a whopping 11%. Most people when they vote for president they vote based on their economic conditions. By any objective measure Blacks actually fared worse under Obama's four years, it's because of this the Romney campaign did not believe B lack turnout would be out in force for Obama.

But unlike you many blacks and others realize that all of it was not his fault, especially when he is fighting off the obstructist in the republican controlled house. As far as bush not getting alot of black votes, we still remember what his father and reagen did to the black community 8 years earlier.

Yet economic concerns were pushed aside by Blacks and most voted for Obama because he was supposedly being picked on by mean racist Republicans.

Oh I understand now, you are both deaf and blind so that you did not see or hear the racist rhetoric towards blacks and Obama

Romney visited the NAACP and inner city Philly he received frosty reception early on. Maybe if he received a more polite response he would have campaigned more in Black areas. I think a lot of times Black folks think there are no repercussions to actions. If you act irrationally irate when a GOP candidate campaigns in your area stand to reason he may not come back.

Of course you cannot comphrend the fact that they want him there in the first place and the fact that he shipped in his own house negros did not help much either. Look mitt was not God's gift to blacks or gays, latinos or even women for that matter. He went to the NAACP to prove a point and he knew what type of reception that he was going to get, it would have been the same if he had went to the NOW or RAZA.
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Old 11-23-2012, 05:33 PM
 
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I was listening to talk radio on my way to work this morning when an African-American caller made the point that anyone opposing the confirmation of Susan Rice for SOS was a racist.

This isn't the first time I've heard this, this is the left's usual attack against the GOP, but the caller went on to make the point that every Republican was a worthless racist and he wouldn't even vote for one for dog-catcher.

Listening to the vehemence in the caller's voice it occurred to me that maybe it's time for the GOP to take a page out of the Obama playbook. Since 93% of the black vote went to Obama, and the Obama campaign made the decision to sucessfully abandon the white working class The Future of the Obama Coalition - NYTimes.com it's time for the GOP to do the same thing and give up on the black community.

Since Obama has sucessfully divided this country along racial lines creating rifts that will probably last generations, I suggest the GOP forget the black vote and pursue the Latino vote instead. In my daily interactions with the Latino community I see a hard-working entrepenurial class that is family-friendly and conservative by instinct, but is put off by the GOP's embrace of strict immigration policies, thus easily seduced by any baubles the Democrats dangle in front of them.

That would mean abandoning the Sheriff Joe Arpaio types and alienating a segment of the vote, but IMO it would easily be made up by an influx of Latino votes.

It's the "New America" - insanity rules and fiscal insolvency is all the rage.

The seeds for the "Balkanization" of the US have been sewn. Let us hope that at least one of the nations formed after the break up of the US learns from the problems that occur when "citizens are able to vote themselves generous gifts from the treasury" and voting rights are conferred upon those with limited intelligence, education, and no property ownership.

Generally, when you seek advice from an idiot, you will get bad advice. That was the election of 2012. If companies sought the advice of imbeciles for business practice, they would go out of business. When the US asks the advice of imbeciles for political information, we get the re-election of the worst president in US history, thus dooming the nation. Good job.
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Old 11-23-2012, 05:40 PM
 
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The torch-bearer "official political party of racism" was the Democrats for well over 100 years. This was true before the Civil War and it didn't change until the Civil Rights Movement landed in Kennedy's lap. JFK really didn't want to deal with it. He stood to alienate the one core region that the Dems could always count on winning: The South.

Under durress, JFK did the right thing and the rest is history.
Excuse me, JFK did very little about Civil Rights. Oh sure, he sent Federal Troops to Alabama and Mississippi to enforce school intergration but that had begun under Eisenhower. LBJ was da man who walked what JFK talked when it came to Civil Rights!
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Old 11-23-2012, 05:48 PM
 
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Lol... give up the black vote?... how do you give something up that you never had and/or never made a play for in the first place?
Prior to the 1932 election the Republican Party had a lock on the African American vote not disimilar to the one the Democratic Party has today and you got quite bit of it back with the election of Eisenhower. The Republican Party made a strategic decision to trade that African American vote for the the vote of white southerns. That which you did, can be undone but you have to be willing to reject the Southern white vote at the base of your Party.
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Old 11-23-2012, 06:01 PM
 
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Excuse me, JFK did very little about Civil Rights. Oh sure, he sent Federal Troops to Alabama and Mississippi to enforce school intergration but that had begun under Eisenhower. LBJ was da man who walked what JFK talked when it came to Civil Rights!
Like I already said, Kennedy really didn't want to do anything about it but when push came to shove, he ended up doing the right thing. LBJ continuing what JFK started is irrelevant. My point is that the Civil Rights Movement brought the whole issue to a head and that JFK simply couldn't ignore it. Taking action at all was dangerous for the entire Democratic Party, but when he was backed into a corner, he went ahead and pissed off the Dixiecrats by doing the right thing. He could have towed the party line and ignored the murdered civil rights protesters and things like that. He didn't. Kennedy was the reluctant game-changer that redefined the Democratic Party. He was in the right place at the right time.
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Old 11-23-2012, 06:40 PM
 
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Prior to the 1932 election the Republican Party had a lock on the African American vote not disimilar to the one the Democratic Party has today and you got quite bit of it back with the election of Eisenhower. The Republican Party made a strategic decision to trade that African American vote for the the vote of white southerns. That which you did, can be undone but you have to be willing to reject the Southern white vote at the base of your Party.
Why can't you have both? JFK did it in 1960. Yes, blacks voted for the Dixiecrat party, Malcolm x called them out on it too.


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Old 11-23-2012, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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Why can't you have both? JFK did it in 1960. Yes, blacks voted for the Dixiecrat party, Malcolm x called them out on it too.
The Democratic Party had so much blood on their hands on the racism issue it's completely crazy. The GOP cannot even begin to equal them.

What the GOP needs to figure out is what kind of hand soap the Dems used to wash it all off. Anything that works that good is too amazing to pass up.
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Old 11-23-2012, 07:07 PM
 
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The Democratic Party had so much blood on their hands on the racism issue it's completely crazy. The GOP cannot even begin to equal them.

What the GOP needs to figure out is what kind of hand soap the Dems used to wash it all off. Anything that works that good is too amazing to pass up.
Well it seems like they are trying really hard to catch up.
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