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Old 11-27-2012, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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There are statements on record, specifically the South Carolina secession ordinance and also statements by the Vice President of the Confederacy, that issues regarding slavery were the direct cause of their secession. So while its true that Lincoln's cause wasn't ending slavery, it's equally true that the instigators of secession's primary motivation was keeping and extending it. For that putrid cause, they betrayed their country and started a war costing thousands of lives.

That clearly being the case, any defense of these human-traffickers and traitors is just morally offensive. Lincoln went way too easy on them.
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Old 11-27-2012, 05:08 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Yawn. Refuses to accept the fact the US flag flew over slave ships but blames the CSA for slavery.
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Old 11-27-2012, 05:14 PM
 
Location: USA - midwest
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How does that establish something as a fact or not? It appears to be an appeal to authority.

A recognized authority in the field with a well established reputation.

In my case, I prefer her take to the "author" in the OP's link, who is still fighting the civil war for the south.
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Old 11-27-2012, 05:15 PM
 
Location: USA - midwest
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So what facts does he have incorrect?
What facts are you referring to?

He offered nothing but stiltted opinion, liberally sprinkled with deliberately inflammatory rhetoric.
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Old 11-27-2012, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Yawn. Refuses to accept the fact the US flag flew over slave ships but blames the CSA for slavery.
I blame the founders of the CSA for being willing to wreck their country in defense of their rights to slavery and its expansion.
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Old 11-27-2012, 05:46 PM
 
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There are statements on record, specifically the South Carolina secession ordinance and also statements by the Vice President of the Confederacy, that issues regarding slavery were the direct cause of their secession. So while its true that Lincoln's cause wasn't ending slavery, it's equally true that the instigators of secession's primary motivation was keeping and extending it. For that putrid cause, they betrayed their country and started a war costing thousands of lives.

That clearly being the case, any defense of these human-traffickers and traitors is just morally offensive. Lincoln went way too easy on them.
If the south`s direct cause was keepin slavery and Lincoln`s cause wasn`t ending slavery then what was all of the fighting about?
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Old 11-27-2012, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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If the south`s direct cause was keepin slavery and Lincoln`s cause wasn`t ending slavery then what was all of the fighting about?
The fighting was over secession.
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Old 11-27-2012, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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The Lincoln Movie: A Libertarian Review

Couldn't be more spot on.
I've read, Forced into Glory: Abraham Lincoln's White Dream. It has first hand accounts from the time...

Forced into Glory: Abraham Lincoln's White Dream: Lerone Bennett Jr.: 9780874850857: Amazon.com: Books

On a side note I haven't watch a moved that wasn't laced with fiction.
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Old 11-27-2012, 08:16 PM
 
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The confederacy winning wouldn't have saved slavery.
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Old 11-27-2012, 08:22 PM
 
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The confederacy winning wouldn't have saved slavery.
If the Confederacy had won and maintained slavery one day, one hour, one minute longer than otherwise it would have been one day, one hour, or one minute too long.
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