Is Access to Food and Water a Right That Should Be Protected By Government? (health care, education)

[clb10]

Originally Posted by EinsteinsGhost

Yes.


If you believe access to health care is not your right, then you should be perfectly fine if the government prevents you from it.

But isn't it the obligation of the government to provide cheap food, water and health-care EQUALLY and to ALL if the government has deemed them a human right?

[EinsteinsGhost]

Originally Posted by clb10

But isn't it the obligation of the government to provide cheap food, water and health-care EQUALLY and to ALL if the government has deemed them a human right?

Not any more than the obligation to provide cheap guns.

[Boss]

In our system the Gov't is charged with making sure that water and food is safe and in some areas supplies water which is safe to drink.

The right to cheap commodities does not always happen. Something about a free market system.

[ellemint]

I don't know about rights and obligations --- but it would seem a civilized nation would want to ensure that all of its residents have at least sufficient food, water, shelter and healthcare to survive.

[clb10]

Originally Posted by EinsteinsGhost

Not any more than the obligation to provide cheap guns.

So you think government sponsored access to cheap guns is on the same level of obligatory human rights as access to cheap food and healthcare?

[EinsteinsGhost]

Originally Posted by clb10

So you think government sponsored access to cheap guns is on the same level of obligatory human rights as access to cheap food and healthcare?

No, you think that a right can only exist if the government provides its cheaply. I simply took advantage of that amusing idea you presented.

[clb10]

Originally Posted by EinsteinsGhost

No, you think that a right can only exist if the government provides its cheaply. I simply took advantage of that amusing idea you presented.

Nope. I don't think that at all.

But most Americans feel that our rights are ordained by government not God.

That is what the whole health care battle was about.

Next year that will be the gay marriage and immigration reform battle as well.

Stay tuned.

[EinsteinsGhost]

Originally Posted by clb10

Nope. I don't think that at all.

You did, when you posted this:

Originally Posted by clb10

But isn't it the obligation of the government to provide cheap food, water and health-care EQUALLY and to ALL if the government has deemed them a human right?

But most Americans feel that our rights are ordained by government not God.

These are usually the same nutcases who believe that God ordains rights.

That is what the whole health care battle was about.

Well, technically by opposition who believed that the government is infringing on their rights by regulating health care system.

Next year that will be the gay marriage and immigration reform battle as well.
Stay tuned.

Hopefully, that too will be settled so we can move on to things that actually matter.

[kidkaos2]

Originally Posted by clb10

...and if not then why is health care such a right then?

Access to food and water is a right. Having food and water is not a right.

[OICU812]

Originally Posted by theunbrainwashed

Wrong, US does not answer to the UN unless it ratifies treaties put forth by it. Other than that, the US has no obligation to do what the UN says

Do you think ratifying any treaty, with the Harry Reid senate will a problem Obama would need to overcome? Treaties have about the same authority as an amendment to the Constitution, and all we need is Obama and the senate to ratify them.