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Old 12-13-2012, 11:35 AM
 
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"Is Access to Food and Water a Right That Should Be Protected By Government?"

Not sure how the government would guarantee access to food, but it has been a long standing policy that access to water was a governmental responsibility which is why to this day no one can own or deny access or control of rivers, or shorelines.
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Old 12-13-2012, 11:36 AM
 
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Access to food and water is a right. Having food and water is not a right.
Not exactly. If you build a cabin in the desert, the government does not have to create access to water and food to fulfill your rights. I know it sounds silly, but don't put it past ignorant, wanting people, to think that they have a right to be provided access by government, to food, water, health care, housing, clothing, an education etc...
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Old 12-13-2012, 02:34 PM
 
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So you think government sponsored access to cheap guns is on the same level of obligatory human rights as access to cheap food and healthcare?
A right is a right, right?

Food and healthcare, like guns, are consumer products which anyone is free to obtain according to their choice and ability to do so. If unable, why are others (e.g., taxpayers) obligated to provide them when in a land of unequalled opportunity the only real barriers are lack of motivation (laziness) and the willingness to make poor choices (stupidity)?

If you equate food and healthcare, neither of which are guaranteed by our founding documents as "rights", to being rights, then dammit I want my guaranteed free/cheap gun. An AR-15 please. With a bayonet as a side order, please.
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Old 12-13-2012, 02:39 PM
 
Location: North America
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You did, when you posted this:


These are usually the same nutcases who believe that God ordains rights.

Well, technically by opposition who believed that the government is infringing on their rights by regulating health care system.

Hopefully, that too will be settled so we can move on to things that actually matter.
Nope. I didn't.
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Old 12-13-2012, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Nope. I didn't.
Must be someone else who I quoted.
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Old 12-13-2012, 05:30 PM
 
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Must be someone else who I quoted.
You've completely missed the point.
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Old 12-13-2012, 10:19 PM
 
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IMHO - Everyone in the US should have food, shelter, clothing and medical care before anyone gets wealthy.


why must we the people give these items to those not willing and able to work for them?
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