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1) the average person on this board is either a sociopath, or stupid (i.e. the people saying good. You deserve death for stealing ? what? from wal-mart? seriously?
2) I doubt a deputy will go to jail for shooting someone. I mean, not like this.. . the deputy will get clean off.
3) it was a deputy. i dont know if you noticed, but the "rentacops" at wal-mart are usually real cops using their time off.
Walmart has their undercover security they hire but they just report to an off duty cop that is the one who approaches them. As you can see from this story, there is a reason why they do that.
I knew a cop back in Florida that worked for Walmart doing just that.
The demographics of the typical Walmart shopper justifies that. They need real cops approaching these people.
Being shot for shoplifting = wrong. That is a disproportionate response to such a crime.
Being shot for attempting to run over an officer = alright. This is a potentially deadly assault that justifies the use of deadly force. Apparently, the person who created this situation was NOT the one getting shot - therefore, I don't think I find this a justifiable shooting.
If it had been the driver who got shot, I don't think this would be in the least controversial.
"She threw it in reverse and tried to run over the deputy,' said Harris County Sheriff's Office spokesperson Deputy Thomas Gilliland."
One of the most ironic statements is this one:
"Shelly was the perfect mom, perfect friend, perfect daughter,' said her father, Shelton Frey."
Sure, I understand that this is coming from the father who obviously can't help but see his daughter in a more positive light than her actions make her out to be. However, taking small children to do some pre-Christmas shop-lifiting doesn't exactly scream "perfect person" at me, especially not if she had a prior criminal history.
All that said, I do not think that shooting into a vehicle with small children inside is a great idea - although I doubt that the officer had time to think this through. I would guess that him shooting at the car was much more a adrenaline-driven gut reaction to being faced with a potentially deadly situation. Unfortunately, it resulted in the death of a person who had done nothing more than shop-lift.
1) the average person on this board is either a sociopath, or stupid (i.e. the people saying good. You deserve death for stealing ? what? from wal-mart? seriously?
2) I doubt a deputy will go to jail for shooting someone. I mean, not like this.. . the deputy will get clean off.
3) it was a deputy. i dont know if you noticed, but the "rentacops" at wal-mart are usually real cops using their time off.
Some posters in this thread are clearly stupid. She wasn't killed for stealing, she was shot trying to murder the deputy with a car.
Don't want to be killed by a cop? Don't try to run him over. Seems some people can't figure that out.
Some posters in this thread are clearly stupid. She wasn't killed for stealing, she was shot trying to murder the deputy with a car.
Don't want to be killed by a cop? Don't try to run him over. Seems some people can't figure that out.
You, however, are clearly incapable of reading and are very willing to jump to conclusions about others even though it is clearly YOU who didn't get the story.
Here's a hint:
The killed woman's name is Shelly Frey.
The driver's name is Tisa Andrews.
Get it now?
In other words, Frey committed nothing other than shop-lifting. The driver engaged in actions threatening the life of the officer. He blindly shot in the car and did NOT kill the driver. He hit and killed a passenger. He could have killed one of the children instead...
He feels proud I bet. He stopped one. Only problem is he will pay for this one day. God could have had plans for her. She could have turned her life around. People often do. But Ole cowboy with the hero complex took that out of the equation didn't he. and that stuff about fear of being ran over is BS. He made that up after he shot her.
Being shot for shoplifting = wrong. That is a disproportionate response to such a crime.
Being shot for attempting to run over an officer = alright. This is a potentially deadly assault that justifies the use of deadly force.
Given that the latter case seems to be what happened, I don't think this is utterly controversial...
"She threw it in reverse and tried to run over the deputy,' said Harris County Sheriff's Office spokesperson Deputy Thomas Gilliland."
One of the most ironic statements is this one:
"Shelly was the perfect mom, perfect friend, perfect daughter,' said her father, Shelton Frey."
Sure, I understand that this is coming from the father who obviously can't help but see his daughter in a more positive light than her actions make her out to be. However, taking small children to do some pre-Christmas shop-lifiting doesn't exactly scream "perfect person" at me, especially not if she had a prior criminal history.
All that said, I do not think that shooting into a vehicle with small children inside is a great idea - although I doubt that the officer had time to think this through. I would guess that him shooting at the car was much more a adrenaline-driven gut reaction to being faced with a potentially deadly situation.
Yeah that is according to a spokesperson who has a very clear interest in this not proceeding.
It reality it doesn't matter whether the 1st or the 2nd scenario happened.
If the first scenario happened the police will not zealously pursue it. This is because it would mean there would be lots and lots of scrutiny on them every time an officer shot someone and in close calls they would be opening themselves up to liability. As such they have no real incentive to say anything happened besides scenario 2.
The prosecutor it is also doubtful will pursue it because the prosecutors need the police. You don't want to be a prosecutor who the police hate because it will make it much harder for you do do your job. Any prosecutor who seriously pursues this and is potentially successful will suffer the consequences for the rest of their career as a prosecutor. As such I seriously doubt the prosecutor will want to see anything besides scenario 2.
Yeah that is according to a spokesperson who has a very clear interest in this not proceeding.
It reality it doesn't matter whether the 1st or the 2nd scenario happened.
If the first scenario happened the police will not zealously pursue it. This is because it would mean there would be lots and lots of scrutiny on them every time an officer shot someone and in close calls they would be opening themselves up to liability. As such they have no real incentive to say anything happened besides scenario 2.
The prosecutor it is also doubtful will pursue it because the prosecutors need the police. You don't want to be a prosecutor who the police hate because it will make it much harder for you do do your job. Any prosecutor who seriously pursues this and is potentially successful will suffer the consequences for the rest of their career as a prosecutor. As such I seriously doubt the prosecutor will want to see anything besides scenario 2.
Actually, while I was writing that, I started to edit my post. Sorry about the confusion.
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