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Old 12-30-2012, 05:00 AM
 
Location: Earth Wanderer, longing for the stars.
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That's why I believe in front side personal responsibility. If you can't figure out what that entails, then you probably shouldn't be a participant in this conversation because its not rocket science. If you ask nicely, I'll give you a hint. You might be surprised at how much sense it makes.
Yes. Personal responsibility means knowing yourself, thinking out all the options, and taking the right course for you. Meaning, for most, if your birth control fails, you abort it. We are not animals in a barnyard, stuck with everything nature throws at us. We intervene against nature in many ways. We don't die of many diseases which we used to. Well, neither do we allow children to be born if they are unwanted. It's simple.
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Old 12-30-2012, 01:51 PM
 
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Yes. Personal responsibility means knowing yourself, thinking out all the options, and taking the right course for you. Meaning, for most, if your birth control fails, you abort it. We are not animals in a barnyard, stuck with everything nature throws at us. We intervene against nature in many ways. We don't die of many diseases which we used to. Well, neither do we allow children to be born if they are unwanted. It's simple.
I believe we can all agree that the PROLIFE side won this arguement big time. Happy Abortion Free New Year.
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Old 12-30-2012, 02:03 PM
 
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I believe we can all agree that the PROLIFE side won this arguement big time. Happy Abortion Free New Year.
Boy, is THAT ever a delusional statement. No Christian humility here, huh? What an example!
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Old 12-30-2012, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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I believe we can all agree that the PROLIFE side won this arguement big time. Happy Abortion Free New Year.
What argument are you referring to specifically?
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Old 12-30-2012, 05:36 PM
 
Location: A blue island in the Piedmont
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What argument are you referring to specifically?
I think chronic must be referring some other forum.
Maybe the one on Bizarro World?

Safe... Legal... Rare... Prompt... Free
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Old 12-30-2012, 05:55 PM
 
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I think chronic must be referring some other forum.
Maybe the one on Bizarro World?

Safe... Legal... Rare... Prompt... Free
Free ? As in other people pay ? It wouldn't bother me to see insurance premiums go up a little, but I'm sensitive to the objections Many others have to paying for abortions. I'd think the millions of choicers, especially the rich ones, could set up a charitable foundation to pay for others' abortions.
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Old 12-30-2012, 06:28 PM
 
Location: A blue island in the Piedmont
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It wouldn't bother me to see insurance premiums go up a little,
but I'm sensitive to the objections many others have to paying for abortions.
Really? Think it through.

Would you rather pay ($5000?) for proper prenatal care and even a healthy delivery instead?
How about all the ($50,000?) of needs during the next 18 or more years for everything else?
Just be very clear... zero cost is simply not an available option.

So yes... free on demand if/when needed.
(You can still let the insurance carriers sort out the rest afterward if that might apply)
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Safe... Legal... Rare... Prompt... Free

Rare by means of far better education and use of contraception than we have today.
Aside from the million conceptions lamented so thoroughly in this thread...
there are probably another million similarly ill considered conceptions to be avoided... that aren't.

Prompt because once the diligent, educated try to avoid conception line has been crossed...
and the choice to exercise the right has been made... NO ONE gains from delay.

Free because dealing with the costs are the single largest hindrance to prompt...
(and it's the best use of public funds if/when even available HI won't pay)

The right to make the choice without the ability to exercise it... isn't much of a choice at all.

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Old 12-30-2012, 06:44 PM
 
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Really? Think it through.

Would you rather pay for proper pre-natal care and even a healthy delivery instead?
How about the needs of the next 18 (or even more) years for everything else?

So yes... free on demand if/when needed.
(You can still let the insurance carriers sort out the rest afterward if that might apply)
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Safe... Legal... Rare... Prompt... Free

Rare by means of far better education and use of contraception than we have today.
Aside from the million conceptions lamented so thoroughly in this thread...
there are probably another million similarly ill considered conceptions to be avoided... that aren't.

Prompt because once the diligent, educated try to avoid conception line has been crossed...
and the choice to exercise the right has been made... NO ONE gains from delay.

Free because dealing with the costs are the single largest hindrance to prompt...
(and it's the best use of public funds if/when even available HI won't pay)

The right to make the choice without the ability to exercise it... isn't much of a choice at all.
There are people who look at abortion as a religious/moral issue and prefer to not financially contribute. Maybe they're economically short-sighted or cruel, who knows. Public funding [free to the woman] of all abortions would be more difficult to achieve than a 'we'll pay for your abortion' foundation. Now, there's nothing to stop choicers and others from pooling their money to help women have abortions.
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Old 12-30-2012, 06:48 PM
 
Location: The beautiful Garden State
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What a fuss the pro "choice" crowd makes if someone even questions whether abortions should be banned or not.
Why is the killing of one million less significant than the killing of twenty children. This is a sick, sick society if we can't even see the illogic in that.
Are you nine months older than you say you are?

I assume you celebrate your "conception" day rather than your birthday?
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Old 12-30-2012, 06:58 PM
 
Location: A blue island in the Piedmont
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There are people who look at abortion as a religious/moral issue and prefer to not financially contribute.
There are all manner of things the government does in all our names that all manner of
groups will have all manner of objection to and almost always for reasons that make good sense to them.

Cutting to the chase: TOUGH. No one said they have to like it.
Try to look beyond your own parochial view sometime and see the larger picture.
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