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This is exactly my point, fat white idiots who are going to repel the gov. LOL they can not get up on thier feet then they sit down. LOL They are like the girl captured by the indians in little big man who talks about getting raped, and seems to want to get raped but no one touches her. I don't think they are gonig to bother you caroline. LOLL
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This is exactly my point, fat white idiots who are going to repel the gov. LOL they can not get up on thier feet then they sit down. LOL They are like the girl captured by the indians in little big man who talks about getting raped, and seems to want to get raped but no one touches her. I don't think they are gonig to bother you caroline. LOLL
Yep. This fat boy is exactly what we are all like. Keep thinking that.
Is it acceptable to you that 20 little children were slaughtered by a military assault rifle that was obtained legally by an unqualified citizen with a mentally unstable child in the house?
All I've seen is "Arm the teachers" That is not practical. That is idiotic.
So what are your suggestions on how we deal with this ever worsening situation?
because anything you define as practical violates the constitution.
The gun used was a version of the AR-15, not considered an assault rifle under the current definition, but in semi automatic mode you can easily fire over 40 rounds per minute depending on how fast you can pull the trigger and the magazine size. It is identical to the M16 used in Vietnam except the AR-15 does not have an automatic mode, the point is you can kill many people in the semi-auto mode. The AR-15 was originally designed for the military, look at the results from Newton, this weapon does not belong inthe hands of civilans.
Mentally ill killers don't care where they go to kill people, they could care less whether there are guns present or not. There is no one solution, we need to look at how we address mental illness, school security and regulation of guns.
Since Adam Lanza shot himself upon hearing the first responders enter, it is likely that had he been met with a gun upon entering, or if he had had knowledge that he was likely to be met with equal or superior force, lives would have been saved.
If the two courageous women who lunged at him been armed and knew how to use a weapon, I doubt childrens lives would have been lost.
It is absolutely ridiculous that we think we are protecting children with wishes of no violence by imagining "gun free zones" and pretending that will ensure the safety of our children.
Guns are not the problem. They are the solution. Without them, no one is safe, because those who would do evil will surely have them. This is why the Second Amendment was added to protect the already existing right. The Constitution did not establish the right; it already existed. The Constitution protects it.
We responsible gun owners don't need to make "practical solutions".
You lefties need to stop trying to blame guns.
The fact that 99.99999999999% of guns didn't kill a single person doesn't sell papers.
A minority of Americans are gun owners. 300 incidents of gun violence every day does NOT equate to 99.99999999999% of guns not killing a single person. Guns are a problem and if gun owners cannot come up with practical solutions then the rest of us will and force them on you. I'll bet that got your attention. So now you want to throw mentally ill people under the bus... ... that's rich. ANGER and FEAR kill more Americans than any amount of CRAZY does.
Guns are not the problem. They are the solution. Without them, no one is safe, because those who would do evil will surely have them. This is why the Second Amendment was added to protect the already existing right. The Constitution did not establish the right; it already existed. The Constitution protects it.
If the guns that are already in circulation are not sufficient fo keep law and order there isn't any evidence that more will accomplish anything productive. You will have plenty of innocent people gunned down by FEAR on the part of registered gun owners who will hide behind "castle doctrines" and "stand your ground" statutes... all these things are are legal instruments to enable backdoor genocide. There have been thousands of shootings since Sandy Elementary. A couple have crossed state borders and reached the level of National News. Most have not. Why not? Because they were minority on minority or white on minority. White on white shootings are, however, on the increase. The shooters are going to be called CRAZY. In some cases they were. Not all. I am hard put to fathom how a country that is in the process of returning its roads to unpaved status to save money. That is in the process of modifying national social welfare programs to save money. That is deeply divided over the need or not to increase taxes on its wealthy people because it is desperately in need of money. I am hard put to fathom how, on the basis of one school shooting is willing to consider the committment of billions of dollars in armed security for public schools...
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Is it acceptable to you that 20 little children were slaughtered by a military assault rifle that was obtained legally by an unqualified citizen with a mentally unstable child in the house?
All I've seen is "Arm the teachers" That is not practical. That is idiotic.
So what are your suggestions on how we deal with this ever worsening situation?
A minority of Americans are gun owners. 300 incidents of gun violence every day does NOT equate to 99.99999999999% of guns not killing a single person. Guns are a problem and if gun owners cannot come up with practical solutions then the rest of us will and force them on you. I'll bet that got your attention. So now you want to throw mentally ill people under the bus... ... that's rich. ANGER and FEAR kill more Americans than any amount of CRAZY does.
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Quantify your position.
How many gun holders are there in the US?
How many crimes are committed with guns in the US?
What is the percentage of occurrence of such in relation to the number of gun owners? Is it scientifically significant? That is, significant in that you can rule out random occurrence? (5%+ occurrence)
I think if you honestly look at the numbers, you will find that it doesn't even amount to a single percent. Last time I did the numbers it was around .01 of 1 percent in occurrence. Is that a reasonable problem?
Now certainly some locales have a much higher occurrence, but then that suggests other factors does it not? If we establish gun ownership as the cause, then shouldn't its statistical occurrence be relatively similar across all populations? Again, if not... then do we not have other factors at play here and wouldn't it be responsible to find out what those are before we take actions? Action on ignorance is often referred to as foolish or stupid. Don't we owe it to a more advanced and civilized society to actually play the part of one and not act foolish or stupid?
If you act on ignorance with the "force" you suggest, then a rational and reasonable person will be forced to act responsibly. A responsible person does not let a fool accomplish their goals as a fool brings suffering a misery to all.
If you come with force, you will receive like force in resistance and you will confirm every fear and reason that has been levied against you for such foolish actions.
So if you truly wish to achieve a solution, then stop applying foolish measures. Stop threatening with foolish demands. Start honestly and intelligently evaluating the issue or your foolish actions will end up dealing with the consequences that fools create for themselves.
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