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Um,the U.S. left,being rational human beings,unlike the tea baggers,and 995 of other "re-thuglicans",hate being the world's only armed madhouse.9A book title,incidentally.)
Also,the ONLY Western nation stepped in state-sponsored murder,or,as the Troglodytes justify this insanity,"Capital punishment!!!!!"
Kids are a subset of human. And a little hyperbole against such idiot defense is perfectly reasonable.
But call them HKRs if it makes you feel better.
I really prefer HKR to KKR. Yeah, kids are a subset of humans, so are gays, blacks, midgets, men, women, etc... Wouldn't it be complete hyperbole to start calling them "GKR" or Gay killing rifles? It isn't technically untrue, but you can see where that seems dishonest, as their is no weapon designed specifically for killing gay people. Same with KKR.
Of course, these weapons, when fully auto and held by government thugs become "Personal Defense Weapons". These weapons are designed to eliminate threats, human threats... and they are routinely used that way... even by children and definitely to protect children. You see, it makes the exact level of sense as your argument to call them KDW (Kid Defense Weapons) as KKR's. I would wager that they are used more often for protecting kids than killing kids.
I really prefer HKR to KKR. Yeah, kids are a subset of humans, so are gays, blacks, midgets, men, women, etc... Wouldn't it be complete hyperbole to start calling them "GKR" or Gay killing rifles? It isn't technically untrue, but you can see where that seems dishonest, as their is no weapon designed specifically for killing gay people. Same with KKR.
Of course, these weapons, when fully auto and held by government thugs become "Personal Defense Weapons". These weapons are designed to eliminate threats, human threats... and they are routinely used that way... even by children and definitely to protect children. You see, it makes the exact level of sense as your argument to call them KDW (Kid Defense Weapons) as KKR's. I would wager that they are used more often for protecting kids than killing kids.
OK human not kid.
And the actual role of HKRs in the defense of anyone is rather minuscule. Their biggest real use appears to be to hang down your back at political rallies.
And the actual role of HKRs in the defense of anyone is rather minuscule. Their biggest real use appears to be to hang down your back at political rallies.
Estimates of DGU or defensive gun use in the United States vary from a few hundred thousand instances a year to over a few million, so... incorrect.
(Oh, and you can honestly call them HDW (human defense weapons) just as truthfully as HKR)
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Estimates of DGU or defensive gun use in the United States vary from a few hundred thousand instances a year to over a few million, so... incorrect.
(Oh, and you can honestly call them HDW (human defense weapons) just as truthfully as HKR)
I would think this class of weapon plays a very small role in the self defense incidents. And it plays and even smaller role in incidents where such a weapon is appropriate. One does not need a Bushmaster to kill a teenager in your garage...a Glock or revolver would seem much more appropriate and reasonable for all sorts of practical reasons. I would think the role for a HKR would be when you hold off a half dozen armed intruders until they flee or the cops show up.
I would think this class of weapon plays a very small role in the self defense incidents. And it plays and even smaller role in incidents where such a weapon is appropriate. One does not need a Bushmaster to kill a teenager in your garage...a Glock or revolver would seem much more appropriate and reasonable for all sorts of practical reasons. I would think the role for a HKR would be when you hold off a half dozen armed intruders until they flee or the cops show up.
That is the whole point of the second, history has proven that you have a reasonable expectation that you may have to do just that. You may have to hold off multiple intruders, you may have to protect a neighborhood.
I know I am going to get the whole "that can't happen here" response, but history has proven that peaceful societies can face major upheaval over night. What about disaster areas, a PDW style rifle seems wholly appropriate. It is well known that thugs become roving gangs in those scenarios. There are plenty of possibilities that people could face way more widespread disasters... if you disarm everyone but the criminals who have small to medium caliber semi-auto rifles already, they are incredibly vulnerable and the criminals have nothing to fear.
The fact that under present circumstances the greater risk is from small groups of people or individuals doing home invasions and such doesn't negate the fact that circumstances change, and history shows they can change very rapidly.
What do you think about 9mm semi-auto sub-machine guns like the p90 or the MP5? They seem like very appropriate home defense weapons, especially if you are facing multiple intruders.
(I know 9mm is not the "stock" caliber of these guns, but as with most guns like this, there are all kind of variants.)
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