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Old 06-03-2014, 11:31 PM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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Originally Posted by BentBow View Post
If everyone was allowed to carry their weapon, they would not be left at home, or in their car, for thieves to steal.
I could not carry all of my hunting firearms at the same time. My family hunts so that's 6 shotguns, 6 hunting rifles, 3 target rifles, a couple of handguns... some black powder arms, hmmm... Lemmee see- I know I'm missing a few...


But they are kept in a bolted down safe, locked in a separate room. But I can't certainly 'carry' all of them at once. I'd look like sombody in a Texas Chipotle for goodness sakes.

 
Old 06-03-2014, 11:35 PM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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My 2 sidearms would be very difficult to take from my person. My Glock is in a locked holster- very difficult to release unless you are drawing (not grabbing).

My .44 mag rides in a chest holster. Again- not a great spot for someone to grab, but very convenient for me, especially in the backcountry.
 
Old 06-03-2014, 11:43 PM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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No one can see my sidearms.
 
Old 06-04-2014, 07:18 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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Defend? From whom? If you were just a bit smarter you'd google for crime rates and know that the English, who banned guns in 1997, are FOUR times less likely to be murdered than Americans.
But it's ok. Hold on to your guns and your false sense of security.... Lol

First. I don't need your permission to hold on to any means to defend myself. Secondly, I will NEVER allow myself to become a victim! Whether you like it or not the 2nd Amendment isn't likely going anywhere, so if you're that scared of an inanimate object, then as I said, perhaps you should move to country that doesn't allow its citizens the opportunity to defend themselves. I mean, progressives seem to hate the Constitution anyway as it cuts into their agenda of government controlling all means and aspects of people's lives, so why stay?
 
Old 06-04-2014, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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No, more like $450 rifle. My hunting rifle is a Sears and Roebuck J.C. Higgins model 50. Everyone that has a $10,000 rifle thinks it's junk. Those that do know about them just quietly chuckle to themselves because they are made with Belgium Mauser actions mated to chrome lined Hi-Standard barrels. Extremely accurate, durable and vastly underrated.
 
Old 06-04-2014, 09:12 AM
 
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You're way out of your league here buddy lol. Of course rights can be acquired, ceded, taken and voted away. "Rights" are purely a social construct: there are no "rights" in animal kingdom. There are no "natural" or "universal" rights outside of a philosophical abstract. Lol
Oh, so you ARE completely ignorant to rights theory, thanks for removing all doubt. I am out of my league? You have LITERALLY ZERO idea what you are talking about, your claims fly straight in the face of rights theory and do not work under rights theory.

You are a good little subject aren't you. Maybe the masters will allow you more PRIVILEGES for being such a model citizen for leaders like Stalin and Hitler, you would have licked their boots too if you were alive in their countries at the time.

If you hate freedom, leave the one single country in the world that is based on it.

You believe in mob rule, plain and simple.
 
Old 06-04-2014, 09:14 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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You're way out of your league here buddy lol. Of course rights can be acquired, ceded, taken and voted away. "Rights" are purely a social construct: there are no "rights" in animal kingdom. There are no "natural" or "universal" rights outside of a philosophical abstract. Lol


I am a human being, not an animal. guessing from your reply, I would think that you consider yourself to be an animal and deserve no rights at all.
 
Old 06-04-2014, 09:39 AM
 
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Typical Tea Party supporter: all 7 sentences filled with hatred and zero with arguments or logic.
Logic is not a conservative value. Lol
Nice ad hominem, you are running a rate of about 80% ad hominem, 10% staw-men, 5% conjecture, and 5% outright lies. lol. You would be kicked of my old high-school debate team.

I do not support the Tea Party, they are big-government, war-mongering pigs. I have just as much of a problem with them as I do with far-left psuedo-socialists like yourself. The fact that you have me pegged as a conservative tea partier rather than a voluntaryist, minarchists, or even libertarian just shows your lack of comprehension.

I prefer to party with beer over tea.

No, you are simply incorrect, my last post did have arguments and logic, you don't understand the logic, because you don't know the definition of a right or you simply argue that they don't exist. It also had an argument contained with, the argument is that you have no concept of rights theory and have done no looking into it, that is OBVIOUS by your misuse of the term. You wan't to see a post with zero arguments or logic? One that is an outright lie about the poster because you don't want to respond to what was said (ad hominem)? Check out the one I quoted.

You are still misusing the term "rights" whether you dodge the issue or not, your arguments are simply arguments that rights don't exist, not about the nature of rights. By definition, rights CAN NOT exist in the nature that you claim they do.

You may now make uninformed, misinformed, or completely fabricated statements about me and my beliefs system to avoid the argument that you are very clearly wrong about.... again.
 
Old 06-04-2014, 09:41 AM
 
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No, it doesn't really matter what I consider myself or what I believe I deserve, I simply realize that each and every right that I enjoy was paid with someone's blood. All had to be fought for. There was no freedom of speech before the soldiers of the revolutionary won it.
Again, you completely misunderstand rights. Under rights theory, the freedom of speech has existed for every human ever, it has just been violated at a quite steady rate. Keep patting yourself on the back for your freedom of speech while literally people get arrested for exercising it... shows how delusional you are.
 
Old 06-04-2014, 09:49 AM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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But the people showing off their arms like in Open Carry Texas usually go for the top shelf stuff.
I've seen pretty basic stuff being shown off, not $10,000 rifles.
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