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Old 04-13-2012, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Fairfax
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Can Kids Be Raised in a Gender-neutral Society? Sweden Thinks So | Team Mom - Yahoo! Shine

Imagine if a girl were the only female on a co-ed basketball team and nobody tried to force her to stop playing, or even cared. What if a teenage boy tried out for an all-female cheerleading squad and it went unnoticed? Could gender truly be removed from the equation? It's unlikely. In the U.S., a girl being kicked off a baseball team because of her gender -- or a boy being allowed on a girls' swim team despite his gender -- makes national headlines. And in Sweden, attempts to create a more gender-equal -- or even gender-neutral -- country are causing a stir.

Related: What does your family sacrifice so your kids can play sports?

In an effort to support gender neutrality, Sweden recently added a gender-neutral pronoun, "hen," to the country's National Encyclopedia. Slate reports that several preschools in Sweden have stopped making references to the gender of their students. Instead of calling children "boys and girls," teachers are referring to students as "buddies." One school even stopped allowing free playtime during the day because "stereotypical gender patterns are born and cemented. In free play there is hierarchy, exclusion, and the seed to bullying." And the country just published its first gender-neutral children's book, "Kivi och Monsterhund."

The objective of creating a society that focuses on "hens," of course, is to allow children to grow up without being limited by gender stereotypes. "It's a laudible goal," Stuart Lustig, M.D., a child psychologist at the University of California, San Francisco, tells Shine. "But the notion of gender is deeply ingrained," he says, and depends on how children are socialized.
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It seems like Sweden is doing social engineering on a very large scale. The part that really disturbs me is that one school stopped allowing free time because it allowed for stereotypes to be formed....this is just another way of saying they won't allow free thought.

What is your opinion of this "experiment"? Do you think something on this scale will ever be attempted in America?
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Old 04-13-2012, 03:19 PM
 
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Try to get a girl to play football, that would not end well
Some sports are ok to be co-Ed like Baseball or Soccer but some Boys have an advantage of being bigger and faster, girls have the edge in others for being more Flexible and nimble.
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Old 04-13-2012, 03:23 PM
 
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Try to get a girl to play football, that would not end well
Some sports are ok to be co-Ed like Baseball or Soccer but some Boys have an advantage of being bigger and faster, girls have the edge in others for being more Flexible and nimble.
Right..what they're attempting might appear to work before puberty, but you cannot hold back nature forever. There's going to be a generation of very confused Swedes....
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Old 04-13-2012, 03:24 PM
 
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Might be a problem come prom season.
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Old 04-13-2012, 03:25 PM
 
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Can Kids Be Raised in a Gender-neutral Society? Sweden Thinks So | Team Mom - Yahoo! Shine

Imagine if a girl were the only female on a co-ed basketball team and nobody tried to force her to stop playing, or even cared. What if a teenage boy tried out for an all-female cheerleading squad and it went unnoticed? Could gender truly be removed from the equation? It's unlikely. In the U.S., a girl being kicked off a baseball team because of her gender -- or a boy being allowed on a girls' swim team despite his gender -- makes national headlines. And in Sweden, attempts to create a more gender-equal -- or even gender-neutral -- country are causing a stir.

Related: What does your family sacrifice so your kids can play sports?

In an effort to support gender neutrality, Sweden recently added a gender-neutral pronoun, "hen," to the country's National Encyclopedia. Slate reports that several preschools in Sweden have stopped making references to the gender of their students. Instead of calling children "boys and girls," teachers are referring to students as "buddies." One school even stopped allowing free playtime during the day because "stereotypical gender patterns are born and cemented. In free play there is hierarchy, exclusion, and the seed to bullying." And the country just published its first gender-neutral children's book, "Kivi och Monsterhund."

The objective of creating a society that focuses on "hens," of course, is to allow children to grow up without being limited by gender stereotypes. "It's a laudible goal," Stuart Lustig, M.D., a child psychologist at the University of California, San Francisco, tells Shine. "But the notion of gender is deeply ingrained," he says, and depends on how children are socialized.
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It seems like Sweden is doing social engineering on a very large scale. The part that really disturbs me is that one school stopped allowing free time because it allowed for stereotypes to be formed....this is just another way of saying they won't allow free thought.

What is your opinion of this "experiment"? Do you think something on this scale will ever be attempted in America?
That is the part that really caused me to gasp also. Its all ridiculous; but this part is scary. Sounds like they are headed toward Fascism, which can come from the Left, much as people don't like to admit it.

"Liberal Fascism" by Jonah Goldberg
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Old 04-13-2012, 03:26 PM
 
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Sure sounds like utopia
God bless the central planners! lol
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Old 04-13-2012, 03:26 PM
 
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Sounds like a waste of time.
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Old 04-13-2012, 03:29 PM
 
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Can Kids Be Raised in a Gender-neutral Society? Sweden Thinks So | Team Mom - Yahoo! Shine

Imagine if a girl were the only female on a co-ed basketball team and nobody tried to force her to stop playing, or even cared. What if a teenage boy tried out for an all-female cheerleading squad and it went unnoticed? Could gender truly be removed from the equation? It's unlikely. In the U.S., a girl being kicked off a baseball team because of her gender -- or a boy being allowed on a girls' swim team despite his gender -- makes national headlines. And in Sweden, attempts to create a more gender-equal -- or even gender-neutral -- country are causing a stir.

Related: What does your family sacrifice so your kids can play sports?

In an effort to support gender neutrality, Sweden recently added a gender-neutral pronoun, "hen," to the country's National Encyclopedia. Slate reports that several preschools in Sweden have stopped making references to the gender of their students. Instead of calling children "boys and girls," teachers are referring to students as "buddies." One school even stopped allowing free playtime during the day because "stereotypical gender patterns are born and cemented. In free play there is hierarchy, exclusion, and the seed to bullying." And the country just published its first gender-neutral children's book, "Kivi och Monsterhund."

The objective of creating a society that focuses on "hens," of course, is to allow children to grow up without being limited by gender stereotypes. "It's a laudible goal," Stuart Lustig, M.D., a child psychologist at the University of California, San Francisco, tells Shine. "But the notion of gender is deeply ingrained," he says, and depends on how children are socialized.
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It seems like Sweden is doing social engineering on a very large scale. The part that really disturbs me is that one school stopped allowing free time because it allowed for stereotypes to be formed....this is just another way of saying they won't allow free thought.

What is your opinion of this "experiment"? Do you think something on this scale will ever be attempted in America?
time for good old socialist mind control of the population, can't have kids being kids. so what happens when they want to teach the hens about homosexual relationships, or transgendered hens?
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Old 04-13-2012, 03:31 PM
 
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time for good old socialist mind control of the population, can't have kids being kids. so what happens when they want to teach the hens about homosexual relationships, or transgendered hens?
But the experts....
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Old 04-13-2012, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Try to get a girl to play football, that would not end well
Some sports are ok to be co-Ed like Baseball or Soccer but some Boys have an advantage of being bigger and faster, girls have the edge in others for being more Flexible and nimble.
That happened to my son when he was in middle school and on the football team. None of them wanted to tackle her during practice.

But in real games the other team couldn't tell she was a she because of helmets and they tackled her hard, real hard. That was the last game she played and quit the team right after that first game.
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