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Old 12-28-2012, 08:52 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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R.i.p.
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Old 12-28-2012, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Default General Norman Schwarzkopf Dies (He Deserves Our Utmost Respect For Serving This Country)

RIP

This seems very sudden. Has anyone heard that he was ailing?
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Old 12-28-2012, 09:52 AM
 
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From an ex-military of another country; I'll offer my respects to him as the very epitome of the type of leader we would all hope for in a time of armed conflict.

Storm'n Norman was his "nickname" but that gentleman General showed us all how a war could be prosecuted using logic and restraint even when it became apparent he may not have agreed with his commander's assessment and the Joint Chief's stated objectives.

The man was a consummate soldier who knew how to respect rank and follow orders he may not have agreed with. He was viewed by the world during Desert Storm and did not come up wanting in any of the categories that all great Generals aspire to have.
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Old 12-28-2012, 10:03 AM
 
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Rip
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Old 12-28-2012, 10:54 AM
 
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A great man, and military leader. Perhaps it does not belong on this forum, for there is little controversy about that.
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Old 12-28-2012, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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He will be missed. He was a great tactician who routed Saddam's Tank Battalions during 'Operation Desert Storm'. He was one of the last great ones. RIP General. He took a oath to defend this country and he did it well. He deserves our upmost respect.
He is a lying sack of **** not worth mentioning and undeserving of any respect.

This is a man who refused to appear before Chris Shay's congressional committee, and then when he finally did decide to appear, he refused to testify under oath, and then he read from a prepared statement.

His prepared statement was filled with nothing but lies.

"I never received, before, during or after hostilities, any report of the Iraqi use of chemical weapons, nor the discovery of, nor the destruction of Iraqi chemical weapons."

Wrong answer.

"The first time I ever heard of Khamisiyah was probably at the same time you did and that was when the information was made public by the Department of Defense."

Yeah, right, um, like so what was Objective Gold?

It was in everybody's frag orders. It was marked Tell al-Lahm on my maps.

"Certain people for reasons of their own, have charged that I and my commanders knowingly placed our troops at risk to chemical weapons, while we sought protection for ourselves, and subsequently engaged in coverups of chemical contamination of our troops. Such a statement at best illustrates an abysmal ignorance of the standards of conduct we expect of all our military leaders in our armed forces today, and at worst is a blatant lie, which strikes at the heart of our armed forces, and undermines the confidence of the mothers and fathers of America who place the well-being of their sons and daughters in our hands. Such a statement cannot be allowed to stand unchallenged."

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USA TODAY

SEPTEMBER 15,1997

Gulf Illness Treated ‘Cavalierly’

Schwarzkopf Says He, Pentagon Made Errors

The chemical weapons incident involved Pfc.David Fisher of the 3rd Armored Division, who was crawling through a destroyed Iraqi bunker when he came into contact with munitions that blistered his upper arm. Schwarzkopf was told of Fisher’s case on March 3, 1991, in a field report from Army VII Corps officers.

"We never ever had a single report, number one, of verified chemicals and, number two, of anyone ever showing any symptoms consistent with nerve agent poisoning," he told the Armed Services Committee.

He told the Veterans Affairs Committee, "We never had a single symptom shown by any of our troops of known symptoms of any chemical contamination and I never received a single report of the Iraqi use of chemicals."
He "regrets" his errors. Gosh, thanks, I feel so much better now.

"VA adherence to the DOD "no exposures" doctrine, often in the face of compelling clinical evidence to the contrary, could be viewed as Department-wide medical malpractice.
-- Honorable Jesse Brown, Secretary of Veteran Affairs

[underlined emphasis mine]

To all of you who would condemn Obamney & Co for the lies and cover-up at Benghazi and then salute ****zskopf as an hero, you're nothing but hypocritical pharisees. Oh, wait, that's redundant.

The only thing that saddens me is that no one got a chance to water-board the jack-ass to get more information out of him before he died.

No tears...

Mircea
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Old 12-28-2012, 11:40 AM
 
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Well; this one didn't even go three pages.

Can't wait to see what comes out from under if GHW passes next.

I'll say this for these boards they can sure keep you on the edge of your seat waiting for the other shoe to drop.
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Old 12-28-2012, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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He will be missed. He was a great tactician who routed Saddam's Tank Battalions during 'Operation Desert Storm'. He was one of the last great ones. RIP General. He took a oath to defend this country and he did it well. He deserves our upmost respect.


Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf, who led coalition forces in the Persian Gulf War, dies | Fox News
He was a real man, a great soldier, a great American and a great person.. Too bad he never ran for President...
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