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Old 01-03-2013, 04:10 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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What exactly does a woman have to do to provoke a rape or assault that would make her culpable? Are you REALLY saying that rape and assault of a woman by her partner can be justified?? I think I feel sick now.
This ~ coming from the party that espouses such things as 'legitimate rape'.
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Old 01-03-2013, 04:12 PM
 
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The title sucks, the report sucks too. The GOP didn't block anything the Bill expired, and it's just tuff...

Women are just going to have to work at being equal just like everyone else in these harder times... get a gun..

Most of these new laws clean a guy out of everything he ever worked for in a divorce. Women don't have it all that bad.
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Old 01-03-2013, 04:16 PM
 
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That is because EVERYONE IS ALREADY COVERED under Domestic Violence
Law enforcement is limited to enforcement and prosecution of laws. It doesn't fund or involve things like domestic violence hotlines, sexual assault hotlines, housing for victims of domestic violence, civil legal assistance for victims, engaging men and youth in violence prevention projects, transitional housing etc. The Violence Against Women law provides for those services.
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Old 01-03-2013, 04:19 PM
 
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The title sucks, the report sucks too. The GOP didn't block anything the Bill expired, and it's just tuff...

Women are just going to have to work at being equal just like everyone else in these harder times... get a gun..

Most of these new laws clean a guy out of everything he ever worked for in a divorce. Women don't have it all that bad.
The bill expired because the House passed a bill that blocked assistance to Native American people and gay people, which the Senate refused. So it has been held up in wrangling ever since.

So you want women to walk around armed in their own homes now? How about children who are victims of abuse and incest? --- arm them too? Turn living rooms into shooting gallerys?
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Old 01-03-2013, 04:27 PM
 
Location: FL
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The Violence Against Women Act should be called the Violence Against Families Act.

There are already laws written criminalizing violence against ANYBODY. What this act does is prop up people with jobs who just focus on violence against women, and encourage women to report their spouses.

Let's be realistic, in a relationship with 2 people, violence is going to occur at some point. In most cases, the vast majority of cases, the family can survive and get past it. But what such an act does and has people meddle and manipulate a woman at her weakest having her do thing's not in her long term interest. Let the act die for all anyone should care.

Anyone who knows women, knows they will go straight to the police if they feel their life is in danger, especially if their kids' life is in danger. But getting slapped once during a heated argument? We don't need police, or these people involved in those cases. That's people being imperfect.
I have been married for 22 years and there has neverbeen violence in my relationship. If you don't think that families don't suffer because of that then you really don't know much about DV at all.
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Old 01-03-2013, 04:34 PM
 
Location: The Midst of Insanity
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The Violence Against Women Act should be called the Violence Against Families Act.

There are already laws written criminalizing violence against ANYBODY. What this act does is prop up people with jobs who just focus on violence against women, and encourage women to report their spouses.

Let's be realistic, in a relationship with 2 people, violence is going to occur at some point. In most cases, the vast majority of cases, the family can survive and get past it. But what such an act does and has people meddle and manipulate a woman at her weakest having her do thing's not in her long term interest. Let the act die for all anyone should care.

Anyone who knows women, knows they will go straight to the police if they feel their life is in danger, especially if their kids' life is in danger. But getting slapped once during a heated argument? We don't need police, or these people involved in those cases. That's people being imperfect.
...and I'm pretty sure you don't.
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Old 01-03-2013, 04:39 PM
 
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The bill expired because the House passed a bill that blocked assistance to Native American people and gay people, which the Senate refused. So it has been held up in wrangling ever since.

So you want women to walk around armed in their own homes now? How about children who are victims of abuse and incest? --- arm them too? Turn living rooms into shooting gallerys?
Yup I want everyone to take care of their own lives and leave the Govt the HELL out of it.

if you need these things YOU pay for them. Your ways are sick, most people call it insane..

I am totally against a gay life style get over it. I got cleaned out hard by my x wife too. The laws are bogus as is most anything liberal.

Tuff huh?

You want it you pay!
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Old 01-03-2013, 04:39 PM
 
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do you REALLY need a "violence against WOMEN act"

is not violence ILLEGAL to begin with???


why do the fascist liberals make so many bills that make NO SENSE

Yes we really do need it. Unless you think the following facts are OK:

---1 in 4 women (24.3%) and 1 in 7 men (13.8%) aged 18 and older in the United States have been the victim of severe physical violence by an intimate partner in their lifetime.

---Victims of severe intimate partner violence lose nearly 8 million days of paid work-the equivalent of more than 32,000 full-time jobs-and almost 5.6 million days of household productivity each year (CDC 2003).

-----In 2010, 241 males and 1095 females were murdered by an intimate partner (U.S. Department of Justice, FBI, 2011). Women have a higher chance of being murdered by a husband or boyfriend than they do a stranger.

Traditional law enforcement is not the best tool to combat domestic violence since most of it occurs within the home and only 50 % of it is ever reported. That's why we need the Violence Against Women Act.

CDC - Consequences - Intimate Partner Violence - Violence Prevention - Injury
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Old 01-03-2013, 04:40 PM
 
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This is just another attempt by leftists to elevate one group of victims over another. Much like hate crime legislation, both are unconstitutional and are only designed to placate a certain voting bloc.
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Old 01-03-2013, 04:40 PM
 
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I have nothing against women...as a matter of fact, I love them.

But let's be honest...it's fluff legislation to prop up the base of hard left wingers. Anyone who's atleast semi-literate can spot that.


[URL]http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/docs/vawa_factsheet.pdf[/URL]

Besides, why not just make it a domestic violence piece of legislation that assists ANYONE in an abusive situation?

Why alienate everyone else by making it gender specific?

I think we all know why.
Correct.
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