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Old 01-05-2013, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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If you look at the state of the nation today, you can see we are fast transitioning to a one-party nation. This current Congress (2013-14) will likely be the last one in which Republicans control the House. The Democratic Party is united in their agenda and most Americans are united behind them. The younger generation is nearly entirely bleeding heart liberal Democrats. The Republican party is dying fast and will soon be comprised of only fringe nuts.

As united as Democrats are and Americans in their support of the Democratic agenda, I don't see a split in the Democratic party in the near future creating a viable second party. Unlike Republicans that are split into three, sometimes incompatible factions, Democrats are united.

A lot of people suggest the GOP simply go liberal on social issues while retaining a platform of fiscal conservatism and the party could become relevant again. The problem is the older generation is still devoutly religious and many of them would never compromise their faith. They are least influenced by the mainstream media or what is considered popular or "cool" so there is absolutely nothing any liberals can do to change them. They still have a few more decades of life though, and by the time that generation begins to die off, it will be too late. The GOP is divided and nearly dead, and there is nothing anybody can do to change that. The moderate Republicans have become increasingly disgruntled with the religious faction of the party they are switching sides. Social issues are emotional issues so whether you admit it or not, they hold the most sway on BOTH sides.

If you look at history, one-party rule nearly always ends in a dictatorship. If you think it can't happen in America, you are wrong. All it would take is a Democratic party with a supermajority in both houses of Congress (likely in 2014 or at least 2016) to start having the power to pass Constitutional amendments. Power corrupts, and its not inconceivable in a future one-party nation for that party in power to start subverting checks and balances. This is especially true when more and more leftist Democrats start replace moderate ones.

The future does not look good. Our founding fathers did the best they could when drafting the Constitution. Democracy is an unsustainable form of government that can only last until the populace figures out they can vote themselves wealth rather than work for it. Our nation was set up with unique sets of checks and balances and if it wasn't for that, we would have had a dictatorship decades if not centuries ago. It's still not perfect though and we are on a fast track to tyranny and I believe we are past the point of no return.

We have the mainstream media, which controls the conscience of much of the nation especially the younger generation, to blame for this. The media is the biggest traitors of all because they are the ones that made this possible and they are the ones that are going to see it to the end.
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Old 01-05-2013, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Baldock, hertfordshire, England
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In most countries, new movements arise. Greece, Italy have had new parties come from practically nowhere. France had the whole le pen thing about 10 years back, even in the UK, UKIP could become a serious force.

However, american politics is so completely monopolized, american media so politicized, it could happen.

Worrying and Pathetic. This is how dictatorships begin.
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Old 01-05-2013, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Will always have a two party government so take off the tinfoil.
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Old 01-05-2013, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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In most countries, new movements arise. Greece, Italy have had new parties come from practically nowhere. France had the whole le pen thing about 10 years back, even in the UK, UKIP could become a serious force.

However, american politics is so completely monopolized, american media so politicized, it could happen.

Worrying and Pathetic. This is how dictatorships begin.
This is the key right here. There isn't such a thing as fair and balanced media in America.

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Will always have a two party government so take off the tinfoil.
How about you take your head out of the sand and look at what is happening instead of believing everything spoonfed to you by the mainstream media and left-wing blogs. If there is to be a viable second party, where will it arise from? If anything, it will be a reactionary party but it may be too late by the time it comes. If it's like the tea party and has religious undertones, it will not be a viable threat to the Democrats.
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Old 01-05-2013, 02:23 PM
 
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Why is it only a "commie one party nation" when the one party is the Democrats. This reminds me of one of the Republican Conventions back in the 80's when the speakers would single out Massachusetts and accuse it of being a one party state, and the audience would boo. then in the same speech they'd single out some other state (I think it was nevada) for praise because it had an entirely Republican congressional delegation and also had a Republican governor, and the audience would cheer
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Old 01-05-2013, 02:25 PM
 
Location: NC
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The Democrats don't have nearly the consensus they had in the 1930s and 1940s. The pendulum of left right will continue.
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Old 01-05-2013, 02:25 PM
 
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If you look at the state of the nation today, you can see we are fast transitioning to a one-party nation. This current Congress (2013-14) will likely be the last one in which Republicans control the House. The Democratic Party is united in their agenda and most Americans are united behind them. The younger generation is nearly entirely bleeding heart liberal Democrats. The Republican party is dying fast and will soon be comprised of only fringe nuts.

As united as Democrats are and Americans in their support of the Democratic agenda, I don't see a split in the Democratic party in the near future creating a viable second party. Unlike Republicans that are split into three, sometimes incompatible factions, Democrats are united.

A lot of people suggest the GOP simply go liberal on social issues while retaining a platform of fiscal conservatism and the party could become relevant again. The problem is the older generation is still devoutly religious and many of them would never compromise their faith. They are least influenced by the mainstream media or what is considered popular or "cool" so there is absolutely nothing any liberals can do to change them. They still have a few more decades of life though, and by the time that generation begins to die off, it will be too late. The GOP is divided and nearly dead, and there is nothing anybody can do to change that. The moderate Republicans have become increasingly disgruntled with the religious faction of the party they are switching sides. Social issues are emotional issues so whether you admit it or not, they hold the most sway on BOTH sides.

If you look at history, one-party rule nearly always ends in a dictatorship. If you think it can't happen in America, you are wrong. All it would take is a Democratic party with a supermajority in both houses of Congress (likely in 2014 or at least 2016) to start having the power to pass Constitutional amendments. Power corrupts, and its not inconceivable in a future one-party nation for that party in power to start subverting checks and balances. This is especially true when more and more leftist Democrats start replace moderate ones.

The future does not look good. Our founding fathers did the best they could when drafting the Constitution. Democracy is an unsustainable form of government that can only last until the populace figures out they can vote themselves wealth rather than work for it. Our nation was set up with unique sets of checks and balances and if it wasn't for that, we would have had a dictatorship decades if not centuries ago. It's still not perfect though and we are on a fast track to tyranny and I believe we are past the point of no return.

We have the mainstream media, which controls the conscience of much of the nation especially the younger generation, to blame for this. The media is the biggest traitors of all because they are the ones that made this possible and they are the ones that are going to see it to the end.
By mainstream media you do include Fox News right? And also Rush Limbaugh et al?
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Old 01-05-2013, 02:26 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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We already have a 1 party state. Its called the state vs you.
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Old 01-05-2013, 02:27 PM
 
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If you look at the state of the nation today, you can see we are fast transitioning to a one-party nation. This current Congress (2013-14) will likely be the last one in which Republicans control the House. The Democratic Party is united in their agenda and most Americans are united behind them. The younger generation is nearly entirely bleeding heart liberal Democrats. The Republican party is dying fast and will soon be comprised of only fringe nuts.

As united as Democrats are and Americans in their support of the Democratic agenda, I don't see a split in the Democratic party in the near future creating a viable second party. Unlike Republicans that are split into three, sometimes incompatible factions, Democrats are united.
Are you old enough to remember the elections in 2002 and 2004? I do, and at that time with the Bush controlled-White House and Republicans controlling the House and the Senate--even in 2004 with a war that was starting to become unpopular, the Democrats were losing seats--the Repubs picked up 4 Senate seats that year.

The talk among Democrats and people on the left side of the aisle was that maybe that party was finished and the Karl Rove strategy would lead to years of Republican power. There was a lot of people talking out of the side of their mouth about leaving the country, seceding, that it was over politically, and so on...

In fact, the Republicans controlled the House and the Senate from 1994 to 2006 except for a brief period from 2001 when Jim Jeffords switched to Democrat for caucus purposes gave the Democrats a 1-seat advantage in the Senate.

All I'm saying really though, is that things can change very quickly in a democracy. Look how quickly the Democrats gained the House back in 2006 after the unpopularity of the Iraq War and the response to Hurricane Katrina. Voting blocs change over history as well--nothing is really written in stone. Political parties adapt and react to the whims of history...
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Old 01-05-2013, 02:28 PM
 
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You can't have a fair media when they are for profit.

This is actually a detrimental flaw of democracy. Once the mass figure out they can vote their way into the public treasury, it is game over.
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