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False. The new rape definition that our corrupt AG Holder introduced does indeed remove gender references but what it does is specify that the rapist must be penetrating the victim. So what they have done is replace names of the genders with the actions the genders perform. That is, it no longer says that a rapist is a man, but it says that a rapist must penetrate, not be penetrated by, the victim. So they have in effect kept the definition of rape as gendered. They have then classified being unwillingly forced to penetrate another person as an "other sexual crime".
If a man and woman engage in nonconsensual intercourse and the woman has not consented, the man has raped her.
If a man and woman engage in nonconsensual intercourse and the man has not consented, the woman has committed a nonspecified sexual crime.
His victimization will not be reported or prosecuted as a rape and he will not be entitled to the protections that rape victims are afforded.
What are you talking about? Eric Holder doesn't determine how states define and prosecute rape.
I think you're referring to how rape statistics are collected and reported, but you're wrong about that too.
False. The new rape definition that our corrupt AG Holder introduced does indeed remove gender references but what it does is specify that the rapist must be penetrating the victim. So what they have done is replace names of the genders with the actions the genders perform. That is, it no longer says that a rapist is a man, but it says that a rapist must penetrate, not be penetrated by, the victim. So they have in effect kept the definition of rape as gendered. They have then classified being unwillingly forced to penetrate another person as an "other sexual crime".
If a man and woman engage in nonconsensual intercourse and the woman has not consented, the man has raped her.
If a man and woman engage in nonconsensual intercourse and the man has not consented, the woman has committed a nonspecified sexual crime.
His victimization will not be reported or prosecuted as a rape and he will not be entitled to the protections that rape victims are afforded.
An object could be used to rape the victim, as it was in the gang rape in India in which the woman died.
This isn't the venue to be sharing your sexual fantasies. The answer to your question is yes, it would rape, plus breaking and entering.
This is why I am finding this thread annoying. Rape is an act of violence, degradation, control, and power. Instead of fantasizing about a young woman ravishing you in the middle of the night, imagine being tackled at a party by a group of drunk guys, dragged to a bedroom, pinned to the bed, beaten, and having men rape you anally and take photos of it to tweet to their friends. That is a far more accurate picture. You are left bruised, injured, humiliated and ashamed. Later when you try to report the rape to the police, they raise their eyebrows because you were known to be drinking at the party, and how can you prove it wasn't consensual? People start questioning your reputation, and say that because you went to the party and got drunk you were asking for it. This is not an imaginary scenario BTW but what likely happened to the 16 year old rape victim attacked by members of the high school football team in Steubenville Ohio.
This is why I am finding this thread annoying. Rape is an act of violence, degradation, control, and power. Instead of fantasizing about a young woman ravishing you in the middle of the night, imagine being tackledat a party by a group of drunk guys, dragged to a bedroom, pinned to the bed, beaten, and having men rape you anally and take photos of it to tweet to their friends. That is a far more accurate picture. You are left bruised, injured, humiliated and ashamed. Later when you try to report the rape to the police, they raise their eyebrows because you were known to be drinking at the party, and how can you prove it wasn't consensual? People start questioning your reputation, and say that because you went to the party and got drunk you were asking for it.
Why should any man report the crime to police instead of getting even? If his humiliation was taken away that night, telling the police won't get it back. Only he can do that.
When a man "rapes" another man it's to show his dominance over whom he's "raping." It's in effect saying you're such a feminine man, I'll have sex with you like a woman. When a man rapes a woman, it's usually because he can't control himself.
In traditional societies, rape of a woman is a very bad crime. Her chastity is stolen that night which will effect her future husband and the amount of money the family receives for her. That's why we privilege rape of women over men.
While in today's America, the concept might be somewhat outdated. We still value women's chastity more so than man's chastity. In fact there really is no such thing as man's chastity. I honestly can't wrap my head around the concept of a man being raped. That man was assaulted and the only way to get back his honor is to get back the guy who assaulted him.
Why should any man report the crime to police instead of getting even? If his humiliation was taken away that night, telling the police won't get it back. Only he can do that.
When a man "rapes" another man it's to show his dominance over whom he's "raping." It's in effect saying you're such a feminine man, I'll have sex with you like a woman. When a man rapes a woman, it's usually because he can't control himself.
Because a crime was committed. Because he was assaulted. If he was mugged in an alley, he would report the crime especially if he knew the perpetrators. Why wouldn't he report a violent sexual assault?
What if he is a slender 120 lb man and the rapists were burly football players? Again, not an imaginary scenario, but the case in Steubenville in which the young girl was probably ~ 120 lbs.
What would this imaginary 120 lb man be able to do to obtain vigilante justice? He'd just get beaten up all over again.
Because a crime was committed. Because he was assaulted. If he was mugged in an alley, he would report the crime especially if he knew the perpetrators. Why wouldn't he report a violent sexual assault?
Because what use is it? Why does he care if they are arrested? Presumably he wants to regain what he lost, which is his honor. Only he can regain his honor. Having the police throw away the rapist only keeps the rapist from raping someone else, it does nothing for his honor.
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