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Court ruled that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to possess a firearm, unconnected to service in a militia
and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home within many longstanding prohibitions and restrictions on firearms possession listed by the Court as being consistent with the Second Amendment.In McDonald v. Chicago, 561 U.S. 3025 (2010), the Court ruled that the Second Amendment limits state and local governments to the same extent that it limits the federal government.
I do not believe "state governed" is included in the 2nd Amendments description of militia.
And as I said before we are all members of our state militia.
Perhaps you would care to stop beating your dead horse militia argument, since no one except you is buying it, and address a far more basic right being that you’re right to self-protection.
You seem to want to skirt the issue that your inalienable right to life includes the right to protect yourself.
Perhaps you would like to enlighten us on your opinion of inalienable rights.
That's because you have no clue what YOUR COUNTRY means by "MILITIA." I provided the definition a while ago:
From The Articles of Conferation, 1776, Article VI:
Only the central government is allowed to conduct foreign political or commercial relations and to declare war. No state or official may accept foreign gifts or titles, and granting any title of nobility is forbidden to all. States are restrained from forming sub-national groups. No state may tax or interfere with treaty stipulation already proposed. No state may engage in war, without permission of Congress, unless invaded or that is imminent on the frontier; no state may maintain a peace-time standing army or navy, unless infested by pirates, but every State is required to keep ready, a well-regulated (meaning well trained), disciplined, and equipped militia, with sufficient public stores of a due number of field pieces, tents, a proper quantity of arms, ammunition and camp equipage.
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That's because you have no clue what YOUR COUNTRY means by "MILITIA." I provided the definition a while ago:
From The Articles of Conferation, 1776, Article VI:
[LEFT]Only the central government is allowed to conduct foreign political or commercial relations and to declare war. No state or official may accept foreign gifts or titles, and granting any title of nobility is forbidden to all. States are restrained from forming sub-national groups. No state may tax or interfere with treaty stipulations [/LEFT]already proposed[LEFT]. No state may engage in war, without permission of Congress, unless invaded or that is imminent on the frontier; no state may maintain a peace-time standing army or navy, unless infested by pirates, but every State is required to keep ready, a well-regulated (meaning well trained), disciplined, and equipped militia, with sufficient public stores of a due number of field pieces, tents, a proper quantity of arms, ammunition and camp equipage.
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[LEFT]AND the Militia Act of 1792[/LEFT]
If the government turns arms upon me, I would be stupid if I didn't have the same might that is pointed my direction.
A stupid as this my sound to some, that have not thought this out, but I can clearly see why Iran wants a Nuke.
We have threatened Iran and they have threatened us back. We hold all the power because we have a bigger gun than they do.
We don't threaten North Korea, like we do Iran. We don't threaten the USSR or China. How about Pakistan or India?
Iran doesn't have a gun and we walk all over them, because we are so afraid they will use it. Maybe someone should have sat down and had a good long talk, well before the shaw of Iran that we placed in charge, was over thrown.
When they get a nuke, all the talk that should have happened long ago, will be tried, but it may be too late.
Same thing with guns. You cannot control someone that has the same firepower as you.
Makes you wonder if this is really about justice, or just more control.
Militia members were to arm themselves!
To ensure that the President could not, at any time, mobilize state military forces into the federal armed forces.
The National Guard Militia can only be required by the National Government for limited purposes specified in the Constitution (to uphold the Constitution of the Union; to suppress insurrection and repel invasion). These are the only purposes for which the General Government can call upon the National Guard. Attorney General Wickersham advised President Taft, “the Organized Militia (the National Guard) can not be employed for offensive warfare outside the limits of the United States.”
If the government turns arms upon me, I would be stupid if I didn't have the same might that is pointed my direction.
Well, you don't and cannot have "the same might," so if you want to blame that on your own stupidity that's fine. The rest of us simply blame it on reality.
Many southern governors, chief among them George Wallace, attempted to use National Guard forces to block civil rights and desegregation initiatives. In these cases, whenever a governor called up the National Guard for use in blocking federal directives, the President promptly mobilized the Guard into the Army Reserve, placing the Guard commanders under federal authority, and subject to court martial should they not carry out executive directives.
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