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Originally Posted by Oldglory
How is desiring English to be made our offical language a nativist stance? I am so sick of unwarrented labels and insults like this I could just vomit.
English has always been our national de facto language, not Spanish! I guess you aren't aware that Calfornia's official language is English?
English deserves its rightful place as our official language as it has been a dominant part of our culture and language since our founding. By making English our official language on the federal level we will not longer have to print documents in not only Spanish numerous other languages also. That would be a huge tax savings. Immigrants and citizens alike will be encouraged to assimilate to our national language also.
We dont have to do it now, which is probably the point of the OP. making it the official language changes nothing.
We dont have to do it now, which is probably the point of the OP. making it the official language changes nothing.
I guess you haven't read the posts including mine that lists the positive changes with making English our official language? If it changes nothing in your eyes than why the objection to it?
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Originally Posted by Oldglory
I guess you haven't read the posts including mine that lists the positive changes with making English our official language? If it changes nothing in your eyes than why the objection to it?
The same reason you have an objection to many gun reform laws, you claim they will never do anything to curve gun violence. yours are however opinions, mine is fact.
We currently have no laws saying the federal government has to produce documents, websites and so on in other languages yet they do it voluntarily. So the argument that it would lower cost is untrue. Thats the only thing you listed in the comment i saw.
The same reason you have an objection to many gun reform laws, you claim they will never do anything to curve gun violence. yours are however opinions, mine is fact.
We currently have no laws saying the federal government has to produce documents, websites and so on in other languages yet they do it voluntarily. So the argument that it would lower cost is untrue. Thats the only thing you listed in the comment i saw.
I haven't even commented on any gun laws so where are you getting this from? Stay on topic, will you?
From wikepedia:
"The United States does not have a national official language; nevertheless, English (specifically American English) is the primary language used for legislation, regulations, executive orders, treaties, federal court rulings, and all other official pronouncements; although there are laws requiring documents such as ballots to be printed in multiple languages when there are large numbers of non-English speakers in an area".
So yes, there is a law where at times documents in multiple languages is required by law and isn't voluntary. I have read that it goes into the billions of dollars in costs.
Aside from that why would you object to making our defacto national language of English "official" since it is a part of heritage and identifying culture?
And of course you have a mini-cam and can see what the posters are wearing and most of all have esp to know that they are thinking, right? Every person you have implied is a racist in here has said nothing to you to pull that race card out of your wallet.
I don't need to have a mini-cam. What they're wearing is implicit in what they're saying.
How is desiring English to be made our offical language a nativist stance? I am so sick of unwarrented labels and insults like this I could just vomit.
English has always been our national de facto language, not Spanish! I guess you aren't aware that Calfornia's official language is English?
English deserves its rightful place as our official language as it has been a dominant part of our culture and language since our founding. By making English our official language on the federal level we will not longer have to print documents in not only Spanish numerous other languages also. That would be a huge tax savings. Immigrants and citizens alike will be encouraged to assimilate to our national language also.
Well if you live in California and English is already the official language then what are you moaning about...you're not a professional moaner are you? I suppose the first amendment doesn't matter either.
You'd save a pittance. Why aren't you trying to hold back costs in areas that we're spending a mint instead? Or is this little issue just more explosive because it involves racism, and you therefore like it more?
You ain't talking about Spanish I bet. Spain is mostly "white". Sheesh!
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(set 22 days ago)
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Originally Posted by Oldglory
I haven't even commented on any gun laws so where are you getting this from? Stay on topic, will you?
From wikepedia:
"The United States does not have a national official language; nevertheless, English (specifically American English) is the primary language used for legislation, regulations, executive orders, treaties, federal court rulings, and all other official pronouncements; although there are laws requiring documents such as ballots to be printed in multiple languages when there are large numbers of non-English speakers in an area".
So yes, there is a law where at times documents in multiple languages is required by law and isn't voluntary. I have read that it goes into the billions of dollars in costs.
Aside from that why would you object to making our defacto national language of English "official" since it is a part of heritage and identifying culture?
Did my research( never use wikipedia as a source), and you seem to be right, any area with 5%(atleast in Florida) of native speakers must have their ballots printed in that language.
The problem with your argument is that making English our de facto language does not mean those laws would change.
As for the second part of your argument. NO English is not part of every ones heritage nor is it cultural. Everyone in the U.S. is not anglo-saxon. or did you forget that this nation was not just settled by the British ?
Last edited by dsjj251; 01-28-2013 at 11:00 PM..
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