Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Border Patrol, ICE, USCG all have their own procurement/training processes and directives.
DHS is really the administrative arm they fall under for orders.
Maybe those TSA gropers are going to get them at the airports ? LOL.."Put down that cup of coffee or I'll blow your head off"
Well, the order was placed by the ICE/Mission Support -DC Immigration and Customs Enforcement Office of Acquisition Management. And it's up to 7K weapons over 4 years. Only $30,000 and the first year of the contract is guaranteed to be fulfilled.
I can see how a paranoid would think this way.
I can also see why DHS would have the need for a small lightweight rifle. DHS agents are required to move around and confront many unknowns.
Shrinking the size and the weight of the kit is why the assault rifle was designed in the first place, as soldiers have exactly the same needs.
Any small weapon is more easily concealed. Concealment may not be the primary purpose that the DHS needs in it's weaponry. The two do not go hand in hand automatically.
I can see why a Democrat in denial would think this way. Doesn't the average Joe also have a need to "move around and confront many unknowns?" But the Average Joe can't have this gun.
Well, the order was placed by the ICE/Mission Support -DC Immigration and Customs Enforcement Office of Acquisition Management. And it's up to 7K weapons over 4 years. Only $30,000 and the first year of the contract is guaranteed to be fulfilled.
I could see ICE getting them. They do get up close and personal with the cartel members.
And I read they are going to an ICE training facility.
Yeah..I can see how they would be useful to ICE. The cartels have established themselves in the US.
They don't need to stockpile, there will be no ban and no shortage of ammo. Heck, maybe we can even pick up those surplus assault rifles dirt cheap at government auctions....
The USCG is a unique branch of the military.
Under peacetime they reported to the Dept of Transportation.
Under wartime the Dept of the Navy.
I was USCG for 8 years and no one really understands how they operate.
DHS took them over from the Dept of Transportation which is their peacetime mission.
The Dept of Transportation did not provide their weapons nor their vessels, the DoD (Navy) did.
They use standard military issue non-lethal weapons while conducting peacetime missions.
United States Coast Guard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Coast Guard is a maritime, military, multi-mission service unique among the U.S. military branches for having a maritime law enforcement mission (with jurisdiction in both domestic and international waters) and a federal regulatory agency mission as part of its mission set. It operates under the Department of Homeland Security during peacetime, and can be transferred to the Department of the Navy by the President at any time, or by Congress during time of war.
The DHS doesn't order cutters for the USCG do they ? DoT didn't do that; USCG got their cutters through the Navy.
With the USCG being a military branch, it's just logical that they have the same choice of weapons as other military branches because in times of war the USCG has augmented the military overseas (like in Vietnam). To arm them with a "personal defense weapon" like an AR is just plain stupid if you think about it. USCG keeps their munitions locked up and you get issued arms if you are on patrol or standing guard.
Logic should tell you that no military branch should have these personnel AK weapons.
Maybe Border Patrol or ICE.
also look up OPNAV INSTRUCTION 4000.798 which was put in place to keep the USCG up to par with the Navy.
So unless Janet is ordering guns for the Navy the Coast Guard won't get them.
Today they are under DHS and the president or Congress can change that, and you can insist they get their stuff "through the navy", whatever that means, but the truth is they have their own budget and they order their own stuff. Right now they are ordering new "National Security Cutters" from Northorp Grumman, who has offered similar design for the Navy as well, but the Navy was not interested. So, if the cutters are coming "though the navy", then so be it, but I don't know what that means. [SIZE=3]
[/SIZE]
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.