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Old 02-02-2013, 11:53 AM
 
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I was armed with a .62 caliber musket, a flint lock which is single shot... However that .600 caliber ball will go right thru 3 + men easy at a few feet....
I assume, since you call it a "musket", it's smoothbore rather than rifled? But even a rifled musket ball isn't going to penetrate "3+ men easy at a few feet" - it doesn't have the velocity or penetrating power to drive through three bodies, it'll just take a big hole out of the first target.

I hate it when historical fiction gets the details wrong.
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Old 02-02-2013, 12:02 PM
 
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I'm sure many would choose to leave if they had a choice. Most don't. You want to take away their right to defend themselves, one of their choices, because somebody else chose to commit a criminal act on them. You are the problem.
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Old 02-02-2013, 12:18 PM
 
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I assume, since you call it a "musket", it's smoothbore rather than rifled? But even a rifled musket ball isn't going to penetrate "3+ men easy at a few feet" - it doesn't have the velocity or penetrating power to drive through three bodies, it'll just take a big hole out of the first target.

I hate it when historical fiction gets the details wrong.
Don't tell that to the deer I have taken with a Nor' West Gun and had the ball go on thru......

Don't tell that to the Russians either, who around 1840 lined up a bunch of eskimo's just to see how many the ball would pass thru...
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Old 02-02-2013, 12:24 PM
 
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Don't tell that to the Russians either, who around 1840 lined up a bunch of eskimo's just to see how many the ball would pass thru...

Source?

Mine is Paddy Griffith, Battle Tactics of the Civil War (Yale U.P., 1989), Ch. 6 "The Infantry Firefight", infra and notes.
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Old 02-02-2013, 12:24 PM
 
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I'm sure many would choose to leave if they had a choice. Most don't. You want to take away their right to defend themselves, one of their choices, because somebody else chose to commit a criminal act on them. You are the problem.
Where i lived and my bad guy came was on the end of a dead end road. My back yard was cliff like to a fast brook about 80 feet below. There was one way out and that would have been out the front where the bad guy was. My son was still in a crib then. My wife of that time was a full blown idiot and i knew it. Sometimes guys do stupid chit.. I used to...

When I married her everything changed that instant, and she just became a greedy wino that same day. Not sure really why I didn't dump her, but 2 years later she bore me a son and he's very cool..
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Old 02-02-2013, 12:26 PM
 
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"When I married her everything changed that instant"

Yes that happens to any who take the walk it seems.............lol
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Old 02-02-2013, 12:27 PM
 
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Mine is Paddy Griffith, Battle Tactics of the Civil War (Yale U.P., 1989), Ch. 6 "The Infantry Firefight", infra and notes.
Don't recall I read about that in a book..... I wish I could find it myself. If you do please let me know. AND I have tried on the internet.... No Go..
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Old 02-02-2013, 12:30 PM
 
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"When I married her everything changed that instant"

Yes that happens to any who take the walk it seems.............lol
Sometimes I need to do something twice

The 2nd time i got it right.... She shoots, she skis. we go for hikes. She can skin and butcher a deer faster than I can.

She only uses war paint on 'special occasions'

So far the biggest problem is if i bring a new gun home........

She always asks if it's for Her
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Old 02-02-2013, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Just East of the Southern Portion of the Western Part of PA
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I think that the choice to stay or leave should still be mine,and not be based on how many rounds that my magazine holds.

You had better present some compelling facts that these proposed bans will prevent crimes and will not jeopardize my ability to defend myself. Otherwise, I will continue to exercise my right to own them.
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Old 02-02-2013, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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I caught 3 bad guys in my truck coming out of the woods from Deer hunting. Talk about stupid bad guys.. I was armed with a .62 caliber musket, a flint lock which is single shot... However that .600 caliber ball will go right thru 3 + men easy at a few feet.... These 3 were marched right down the mountain to the Chief of Police's house, and as my luck would have it, he was home playing chess on his PC.

So you could say all one needs is a .620 caliber musket....

But then after 2 cases in the same area in the national forest where I live, there were rape murders where the females were raped and she and the male partners were were killed. (Cases have never been solved to date) At that time i began to carry a Ruger Blackhawk, the older style with out the transfer bar, so loaded i had just 5 rounds in it, instead of 6.

I just have this problem about shooting myself.

Considering most people here have no idea what I am saying, to load such a gun, you insert one round and then skip the next and then add 4 more. Done correctly this sets the hammer down on a empty chamber.

And so I took my son back packing, and we encountered not one bad guy not two, and not three, but 8.

I just walked by knodded a hello up at the height of land over looking the pemmi. One bad guy decided to insult my son, and my son was in a terrible rage because his diapers needed to be changed anyway. I had put off that act until I reached nancy Pond and so had more water not fit for drinking but plenty good to change my son's pants.

The bad guy had seen my son peeking out from the tip of my pack and so entered the trail behind me, to say "That kid's head will look better smashed on that tree'...

The reader will have to excuse me on which tree was the intended, as I never did find out. Instead i turned to face said bad guy, and motioned towards the grips of the gun, which was in a shoulder holster I made.

The bad guy's eyes followed my hand and that stopped him .... he was still warm.. One more step and he would have been cold.. However i was upset that 8 guys and 5 bullets are not a great match and the next day I set about getting a proper self defense gun and now I have more than one.

The number of rounds one needs depends...... The Govt Shall not limit me.. Oh well.....
What a load. I seem to remember that scene from a Mike Hammer story. Used to read Spillane between sorties with the` Viper Squadron.
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