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A FULL TIME minimum wage job pays about $15,000 per year. A rent of even $500/mo will take up almost half of that. There are not many places where one can rent anything more than a chicken coop for that amount. Food, maybe $50/wk/person if you're real careful. That's another $2600. Clothing and taxes are a couple of other necessary expenses.
One would be hard pressed to find an apartment in Portland for $500 a month. If they found one, it would probably be in a gang-infested free-fire zone.
One would be hard pressed to find an apartment in Portland for $500 a month. If they found one, it would probably be in a gang-infested free-fire zone.
Sounds like a good reason to study hard, work hard, acquire skills and experience, and work your way up out of that minimum-wage job.
A minimum-wage law, is society's way of saying that jobs that are only worth a lower amount, aren't worth doing AT ALL. The law has the effect of eliminating those jobs completely.
When was the last time you pulled into a gas station for fuel, and somebody came out and asked if you wanted your windshield washed, tires inflated, and oil and engine-cooling fluid checked?
Such jobs are no longer done, at all. Because min-wage laws made it necessary for the gas station owner to raise his gas prices so much to pay the guy washing your windshield, that you would go to the station down the street instead, whose gas prices are a LOT lower and nobody washed your windshield.
Because YOU (not the station owner) decided that the extra money for gas, was more than you wanted to pay to get your windshield washed, tires checked etc.
I don't see hamburger flipping jobs going away in the near future.
I don't see hamburger flipping jobs going away in the near future.
Neither do I because there's really not much left.
The government either raises min wage or expands their social programs.
And they better do it quick because we have 11-20 million future citizens waiting in the wings for amnesty.
Why is someone working only 40 hours per week if they are on minimum wage? And why aren't they renting a cheaper apartment with a few roommates?
I don't own a car don't have a license, and have a lot of daytime medical appointments. Clearly a minimum wage job is not going to offer more than 40 hours a week (min wage employers detest paying overtime; I got 48 hours one week and my employer made SURE I never got close to 40 hours again).
You think I can work more than 40 hours a week given my transportation and time constraints?
Lots of places now include internet and cable with your rent.
Cricket is a month to month cheap cellphone option..$35 and you get unlimited talk/text
You can even go cheaper with "pay as you go" cell phones which would allow you to eliminate a hard line to save money. I personally run my own PBX server for a home line for less than 100 bucks a year (call anywhere in the world) and have been toying with the same over a data plan over mobile phones
Point is, these are dirt cheap and if you "really" use them as need, you can pay next to nothing (ie have the cell plan I mentioned or just have a standard hard line at home).
This would be more than enough for a single person or maybe even a couple in Ohio. But not sure abut adding kids to that.
Kids are a luxury. If you have kids and cant afford them on your living, you either work hard, or work smart. That is, you either work multiple jobs or you do something to improve the wage of a single job. I don't shed a tear over those who have kids and complain about income. They knew the risks before they took the act. Complaining about your poor wage with children in such situations is equal to complaining about the loss of your money at the craps table. If you weren't ready to lose money, you shouldn't have played the game.
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I'm on around $50/week for food as the max. I usually can get in below that.
Yep, you can get it really low if you learn how to cook and do some strategic shopping (couponing, etc...).
My wife and I eat very well with healthy and a variety of choices for around 300 a month. We even have the occasional Ribeye steak when it is on sale.
I would like to see options for the people that actually have to pay it. Raise it to 12 dollars an hour but the employee will have to pay for their own workman comp. and unemployment insurance or just forgo it all together.
Where I work, everyone is paid within a few cents of minimum wage and one-third of our employees have college degrees.
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