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Old 02-17-2013, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Came across this article very damning opinion on the state of education and Black children.

Black students disproportionately disciplined in nation?s schools - Washington Post
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According to the study, while black students comprise approximately 18 percent of all public school students nationally, they represent 35 percent of those suspended once, 46 percent of students suspended more than once, and nearly 40 percent of all expulsions. The data were gathered by the department’s Office of Civil Rights.

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Old 02-17-2013, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Happy wherever I am - Florida now
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One reason for this is the great absence of black men in their families especially those who would be good role models. Adults who advocate for the kids to value education is another.

When adult men are not present on a regular basis boys will tend to assume the roll of the man in the family. I saw this first hand after I divorced. It is a role they are not prepared for and the combination of trying to be a child, in the case of young boys, and trying to be what they imagine (incorrectly many times) a man is is too much for them. They become confused by the conundrum and often act inappropriately. One big solution is to encourage solid husband and wife families who work as a team to raise up children right. I also don't see as much of this acting out where I live now which happens to be a particularly religious area of the country.
 
Old 02-17-2013, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Space Coast
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Perhaps it is more related to socioeconomic status rather than skin color. I'm in an area where there are lots of middle - upper middle class black families, and those children are no more a discipline issue than anyone else (and in many cases LESS)
 
Old 02-17-2013, 09:06 AM
 
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Perhaps it is more related to socioeconomic status rather than skin color. I'm in an area where there are lots of middle - upper middle class black families, and those children are no more a discipline issue than anyone else (and in many cases LESS)
Correct. It's not a race issue, it's a class issue. Go to your local school or mall if you don't believe me.
 
Old 02-17-2013, 09:18 AM
 
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Old 02-17-2013, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Perhaps it is more related to socioeconomic status rather than skin color. I'm in an area where there are lots of middle - upper middle class black families, and those children are no more a discipline issue than anyone else (and in many cases LESS)
The black educator found the same issues among Black kids across class lines.
 
Old 02-17-2013, 09:33 AM
 
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Glad that my teachers didn't feel that way.
 
Old 02-17-2013, 09:38 AM
 
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I am with the others, it's a class problem.

At the university level, this problem disappears, in my experience.
 
Old 02-17-2013, 09:38 AM
 
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The black educator found the same issues among Black kids across class lines.
So whats your point and whats your solution? Or are you saying Blacks are worthless?
 
Old 02-17-2013, 09:42 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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The black educator found the same issues among Black kids across class lines.
Goodness, Edward - do you have any contact with any black people whatsoever?

Somehow, we all work together in a large corporation and manage to do so without any disruptions to the daily work flow. Wonder how that works?

Socio-economic status and education MATTER - no matter what your color.
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