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Can't wait for the arguments from the power industry that the conversion is to expensive and that President ________'s EPA regulations forcing power companies to convert to loop processing will hurt the economy and isn't the function of government in the first place.
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Sounds extremely expensive and not very efficient, which prob means it is not feasible from an economic standpoint.
Well that faster than even I would have expected.
Since the thread and accompanying story have been short no details, how one comes to that analysis is fascinating, but not surprising.
This could put a crimp in Obozo's plan for America. A new discovery that advances, in a positive manner, the "trickle-down" benefits of our capitalist system. The Oval Office does not now have a happy camper in the driver's seat! If this process were patented, rights to use the process could be sold to other countries and I can see our debt-load starting to dwindle. A source that, in and of itself, also nullifies a new energy source in America from criticism by the "global warming" and "carbon" lobby critics and enviro-wacko contingent. And as a side bonus it will make Bad AlGorithms' phony trading in "carbon credits", which only works by placing a value on pollution to encourage trading in units of it, an unwise investment. Let's call this the "Anti-Rahm" strategy. The taking advantage of using a crisis to develop a POSITIVE solution. Works for me as a right-wing agenda!
I'm definitely likin' the potential for this new discovery. Good to see FoxNews, our only major "Fair and Balanced" news source, out front on this.
Wait, I thought people like you were against spending federal money to develope cleaner burning fuel because it would cost tomuch money for the coal companies?
Any good for those who are developing this, it fits right into Obama's much hated left-wing agenda and glad to see you support him for once OP.
This could put a crimp in Obozo's plan for America. A new discovery that advances, in a positive manner, the "trickle-down" benefits of our capitalist system. The Oval Office does not now have a happy camper in the driver's seat! If this process were patented, rights to use the process could be sold to other countries and I can see our debt-load starting to dwindle. A source that, in and of itself, also nullifies a new energy source in America from criticism by the "global warming" and "carbon" lobby critics and enviro-wacko contingent. And as a side bonus it will make Bad AlGorithms' phony trading in "carbon credits", which only works by placing a value on pollution to encourage trading in units of it, an unwise investment. Let's call this the "Anti-Rahm" strategy. The taking advantage of using a crisis to develop a POSITIVE solution. Works for me as a right-wing agenda!
I'm definitely likin' the potential for this new discovery. Good to see FoxNews, our only major "Fair and Balanced" news source, out front on this.
I saw nothing in the article addressing the radioactive outputs of coal consumption.
At issue is coal's content of uranium and thorium, both radioactive elements. They occur in such trace amounts in natural, or "whole," coal that they aren't a problem. But when coal is burned into fly ash, uranium and thorium are concentrated at up to 10 times their original levels.
...estimated radiation doses ingested by people living near the coal plants were equal to or higher than doses for people living around the nuclear facilities. At one extreme, the scientists estimated fly ash radiation in individuals' bones at around 18 millirems (thousandths of a rem, a unit for measuring doses of ionizing radiation) a year. Doses for the two nuclear plants, by contrast, ranged from between three and six millirems for the same period. And when all food was grown in the area, radiation doses were 50 to 200 percent higher around the coal plants.
Wait, I thought people like you were against spending federal money to develope cleaner burning fuel because it would cost tomuch money for the coal companies?
Any good for those who are developing this, it fits right into Obama's much hated left-wing agenda and glad to see you support him for once OP.
I suspect People like Dr. Hugo is people like me. I do not have an issue with some amount of funding for research. I do have serious issues with government picking winners (see solendra and the corn ethonol industry).
Government involvement often leads to mis-starts, and slows innovation.
Research funding on a certain level is a good thing. Government picking one technology/company and backing it with the full force of its power is entrirely different.
This could put a crimp in Obozo's plan for America. A new discovery that advances, in a positive manner, the "trickle-down" benefits of our capitalist system. The Oval Office does not now have a happy camper in the driver's seat! If this process were patented, rights to use the process could be sold to other countries and I can see our debt-load starting to dwindle. A source that, in and of itself, also nullifies a new energy source in America from criticism by the "global warming" and "carbon" lobby critics and enviro-wacko contingent. And as a side bonus it will make Bad AlGorithms' phony trading in "carbon credits", which only works by placing a value on pollution to encourage trading in units of it, an unwise investment. Let's call this the "Anti-Rahm" strategy. The taking advantage of using a crisis to develop a POSITIVE solution. Works for me as a right-wing agenda!
I'm definitely likin' the potential for this new discovery. Good to see FoxNews, our only major "Fair and Balanced" news source, out front on this.
The process seems to be an exothermic chemical reaction between Iron Oxide and Coal which makes Iron Carbide, water and Iron carbonate. If you adjust the amounts of iron oxide use a form of coal called coke and calcium carbonate (aka Limestone) you also get a highly exothermic reaction that makes a iron/iron carbide material called steel. When a blast furnace was started for the first time it was quite a sight when the reaction began!
I suspect People like Dr. Hugo is people like me. I do not have an issue with some amount of funding for research. I do have serious issues with government picking winners (see solendra and the corn ethonol industry).
Considering the wide swarth of basic and developmental research the federal government support it would seem that the picking of winners and losers is more a fault of yours than the federal government.
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Government involvement often leads to mis-starts,
Ah, mistarts is the inherent nature of scientific and technological inquiry and innovation and even mistarts can lead to tremendous advancements in other areas.
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Government picking one technology/company and backing it with the full force of its power is entrirely different.
Perhaps you would be so good as to devise another way to grant funding other than picking which projects seem most viable and fitting as a opposed to those that are not, or should the government simple lay out a few billion dollars on the White House lawn in easter eggs for researchers to find.
Considering the wide swarth of basic and developmental research the federal government support it would seem that the picking of winners and losers is more a fault of yours than the federal government.
Ah, mistarts is the inherent nature of scientific and technological inquiry and innovation and even mistarts can lead to tremendous advancements in other areas.
Perhaps you would be so good as to devise another way to grant funding other than picking which projects seem most viable and fitting as a opposed to those that are not, or should the government simple lay out a few billion dollars on the White House lawn in easter eggs for researchers to find.
Our country is looking replacement energy sources for gasoline powered engines and coal-fired base load electrical power, ethanol, solar and wind cannot do that, and yet 0bama throws tens, if not hundreds of billions of dollars, at these. Why not just offer tax incentives for investors and developers for new energy development, and let the merits of their own research determine who wins and loses?
When politicians determine who wins and loses we get fraud, corruption and abuse on a colossal scale.
WASHINGTON, D.C.— As part of President Obama’s all-of-the-above approach to American energy, the Energy Department announced that nine universities have won awards for research projects that will continue to support innovation and development of clean coal technologies.
“Advancing the development of clean coal technologies is an important part of President Obama’s strategy to develop every source of American energy and ensure the United States leads the world in the global clean energy race and continues to take advantage of domestic resources here at home,” said U.S. Energy Secretary Steven Chu. “These university research projects will help build on extensive progressive made by this Administration to promote innovative technologies that help make coal-fired energy cleaner and more cost-competitive, while training the next generation of scientists and engineers in cutting-edge clean coal technologies.”
Not to get excited my friend. I knew if I left my door hanging ajar you'd finally come strolling on through. Welcome! I was just having some fun with tweaking you guys. It was stated that it was accomplished a part of a federal grant, so I realized what you posted on. It will though, knock the 'futures' stuffin's out of Bad Algorithms "carbon credit" agenda as I noted. And considering how Obozo has treated the coal industry and the fact that this is not-yet-ready-for-primetime technology yet, do you think he'll ease up on that industry[1]? I don't.
So why don't people like this show up on the Forbes wealthiest people list, speaking of the right wing meritocracy that is spoken so highly about?
"people like this"??? Who are you referring to?
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. Good to see FoxNews, our only major "Fair and Balanced" news source, out front on this.
Well...it's about time!
