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If my religious belief prohibits pedophilia, should I be silent about pedophiles?
Really? What religion prohibits pedophila?
The Bible is replete with all sorts of sordid and unconventional couplings, and I know of no passages that prohibit adult-child marriages (which were the norm until only very recently in Judeo-Christian tradition).
And hell, Mohammed had himself a child lover, did he not?
And anyway, you should be against pedophilia because it HARMS CHILDREN and because children DO NOT AND CANNOT CONSENT to sex with adults!
If you're only "against pedophilia" because your "religion" tells you its bad..... that's a whole 'nother problem!
I think it would have been better for homosexuals to push for civil unions w/ the same benefits of marriage, instead of trying to redefine marriage to include same sex partnerships.
I think it would have been better for homosexuals to push for civil unions w/ the same benefits of marriage, instead of trying to redefine marriage to include same sex partnerships.
Separate but equal doesn't tend to work out. In your scenario the state or government would have to recognize all marriages as civil unions.
Your moral values are horrid. They are oppresive. They have bound humanity into mental and physical slavery for centuries, and enough is enough.
And what are your values, Oh that's right, you have none. Moving on...
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If there is a God he/she is probably disgusted at how much atrocity people like you have committed in his/her name.
I haven't committed any atrocities, unless you consider speaking out against prostitution, adultery, fornication, homosexuality, pornography, child abduction, pedophiles, violence and crime, an atrocity. Oh that's right, you have no values ... again moving right along...
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You ARE the crazy one. You're the crazy one because you base your worldview on fairy tales. You're an allegedly grown adult and you believe in cosmic Santa Claus.
I'm crazy because I believe in the Creator, and I believe that he created us in His image? I believe that God gave us the ability to discern right from wrong and to understand the difference between good and bad behavior... yet I'm the crazy one?
Perhaps you equate God to Santa Claus, but I don't. Never have and never will. I believe in God and love God and will try my best to speak the truth wherever and whenever possible. Even when speaking the truth is unpopular and even when I'm accused of hatred and bigotry for saying what is true. Even when it hurts those who want to hear otherwise, because it goes against what they practice.
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In a just world, people like that would be locked away as schizophrenics that are demonstrable dangers to society (history is replete with people who have believed just as you do about any number of their gods - alive or dead - and have committed mass acts of atrocity, murder and war).
Yes, and people like you and your ilk should be free to do whatever you wish. But I should be locked away for voicing how I feel about this topic. Something just doesn't seem right about this.
And for the record, I don't believe in gods, I believe in God. My Creator has already provided a blue print for how man should live, and that's what I'm following. Your opinion is therefore meaningless, just as I'm sure what I say is meaningless to you as well.
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It makes you a bigot. It makes you willfully ignorant. It makes you part of a sad and rapidly dying breed and class of persons that history will judge the same way:
Yes, it makes me a bigot for believing that men shouldn't screw other men, and women shouldn't screw women? I'm trying to follow your logic, but again, something is grossly off. I didn't advocate the hanging or killing of gay people. I didn't even state that gays should be abused or mistreated. I simply stated that men shouldn't have sex with men and women shouldn't have sex with women, but again, because I stated this viewpoint, I'm labeled a bigot.
God already has warned that in the last days, sin will be viewed as good and speaking out about sin will be viewed as bad. It's all coming to fruition.
I knew someone would bring this up. The problem with your comment is, women in their natural healthy state can reproduce, with men in their natural healthy state.
However, men in their natural healthy state, can never reproduce with other men in their natural healthy state, just as women in their natural healthy state, can never reproduce with other women in their natural healthy state.
So, if there's ever a preponderance of homosexual activity, the human race will cease to exist, because homosexuals can never naturally produce children. Does this seem normal to you?
I was sterilized BY CHOICE at the age of 22.
What do you make of me?
No matter how much sex I had (and I do enjoy sex) I couldn't breed.
BTW, most people shouldn't breed, they suck at being parents.
And what are your values, Oh that's right, you have none. Moving on...
Oh how cute. You think people who don't follow your religion "have no values?"
Reality check: Human values and morality existed BEFORE your religion, and they will exist AFTER your religion is studied the same way we do Greek Mythology.
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Originally Posted by Lily1224
I'm crazy because I believe in the Creator, and I believe that he created us in His image? I believe that God gave us the ability to discern right from wrong and to understand the difference of good and bad behavior... yet I'm the crazy one?
Perhaps you equate God to Santa Claus, but I don't. Never have and never will. I believe in God and love God and will try my best to speak the truth wherever and whenever possible. Even when speaking the truth is unpopular and even when I'm accused of hatred and bigotry for saying what is true. Even when it hurts those who want to hear otherwise, because it goes against what they practice.
"God is Love"?! Lady, you are NOTHING like the message of your God. Your type are carcicature jokes.
I can only see you now, big hairsprayed hair, crying, blue mascara running as you type, trying to tell the world about the "love of god" and how you feel. Save it. Tammy Fae Baker is dead and even SHE came around to see the error of her ways at the end of her life.
You're not speaking truth. You're speaking your dogma.
You and a 6 billion others believe they hold "the truth." Every Muslim, Hindu and Buddhist feels just as strongly about their beliefs as you do. You can't all be right, and likely, you're all equally wrong.
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Originally Posted by Lily1224
Yes, and people like you and your ilk should be free to do whatever you wish. But I should be locked away for voicing how I feel about this topic. Something just doesn't seem right about this.
No. Read again. You should be locked away because you display the same traits as those who ARE locked away.
If I ran around saying a cosmic alien race demands we oppress and restrict Asian people from marrying, and if I told everyone that I speak to these aliens every night before bed and ask them to forgive me for eating Chinese takeout that night..... then I woudl rightfully be labelled a CRAZY.
Replace "aliens" with "God" and "Asians" with "gays" and... voila.... now you can see why we think you're crazy.
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Originally Posted by Lily1224
And for the record, I don't believe in gods, I believe in God. My Creator has already provided a blue print to how man should live, and that's what I'm following. Your opinion is therefore meaningless in the larger scope of things, just as I'm sure what I say is meaningless to you as well.
Your creator? I've never met your parents and don't know why you're bringing them into this discussion.
Though I would like a word with them about their parenting skills. It is the duty of every parent to educate their child and prepare them for life in the real world, and obviously, somebody has failed. Miserably.
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Yes, it makes me a bigot for believing that men shouldn't screw other men, and women shouldn't screw women? I'm trying to follow your logic, but again, something is grossly off. I didn't advocate the hanging or killing of gay people. I didn't even state that gays should be abused or mistreated. I simply stated that men should have sex with men and women shouldn't have sex with women, but again, because I stated this viewpoint, I'm labeled a bigot.
You are ridiculous because being against homosexuals is like disagreeing with being deaf or left handed.
The fact that you can't understand that will be your ultimate downfall.
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God already has warned that in the last days, sin will be viewed as good and speaking out about sin will be viewed as bad. It's all coming to fruition.
Save it, sister. Every generation since Christ has believed he was "coming in their lifetimes." Everyone has always seen revelation "coming to fruition!" The signs! The signs! Can't you read the signs?!
I knew someone would bring this up. The problem with your comment is, women in their natural healthy state can reproduce, with men in their natural healthy state.
However, men in their natural healthy state, can never reproduce with other men in their natural healthy state, just as women in their natural healthy state, can never reproduce with other women in their natural healthy state.
So, if there's ever a preponderance of homosexual activity, the human race will cease to exist, because homosexuals can never naturally produce children. Does this seem normal to you?
Using your percentage of less than 5% of the population. How will 5% ever be a preponderance of sexual activity?
And what are your values, Oh that's right, you have none. Moving on...
that is quite uncalled for, and based on nothing but your opinion. one can have values without worshiping or believing in a magical sky daddy.
Values are what people hold, not what a person is told to believe in by a magical sky daddy.
Oh that's right, you're the one that believes in a magical sky daddy.
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I haven't committed any atrocities, unless you consider speaking out against prostitution, adultery, fornication, homosexuality, pornography, child abduction, pedophiles, violence and crime, an atrocity. Oh that's right, you have no values ... again moving right along...
of the list above, three do not belong: homosexuality, fornication and pornography. These are no atrocities.
oh that's right, you're the one that believes in a magical sky daddy.
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Yes, I'm crazy because I believe in the Creator, and I believe that he created us in His image.
Most people who believe in imaginary people, are often treated for their hallucinations.
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I believe that God gave us the ability to discern right from wrong and to understand the difference of good and bad behavior... yet I'm the crazy one?
And your magical sky daddy says to love one another, without hate. And not to judge. Oh wait, that magical sky daddy also is one of the most vehemently, vengeful, petty being ever created by man.
Yes, your magical sky daddy is a figment of MAN's imagination, created by the rich and powerful, to subjugate the poor and ignorant.
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Perhaps you equate God to Santa Claus, but I don't.
They are the same. Imaginary beings.
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Never have and never will.
Good for you. Why do you want to push others to believe in your magical sky daddy?
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I believe in God and love God and will try my best to speak the truth wherever and whenever possible.
You're not speaking the truth, you are speaking an opinion based on a book of fairy tales, and forcing it on others
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Even when speaking the truth is unpopular and even when I'm accused of hatred and bigotry for saying what is true. Even when it hurts those who want to hear otherwise, because it goes against what they practice.
When you show your hate and disgust for simply not liking people because of whom they wish to love, have a relationship, and may have sex with, that is bigotry.
Its the same BS claims used by those who apposed Interracial marriages - people hated them simply because of the color of their skin.
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Yes, and people like you and your ilk should be free to do whatever you wish. But I should be locked away for voicing how I feel about this topic. Something just doesn't seem right about this.
Who said about locking away? Fortunately your views are going the way of the do-do.
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And for the record, I don't believe in gods, I believe in God.
So what? I believe that there are many "Gods", and that each culture has their own magical sky daddy/mommy to believe in. Why is YOUR "god" more important than someone else's?
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My Creator has already provided a blue print to how man should live, and that's what I'm following.
No, you're not following what your Creator has said. Which is to love, not hate, and not to judge. What you have posted in this thread, is not love, you have shown that you hate, and you have constantly judged.
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Your opinion is therefore meaningless in the larger scope of things, just as I'm sure what I say is meaningless to you as well.
Yes your opinion is meaningless because its now the minority opinion in the world. Good.
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Yes, it makes me a bigot for believing that men shouldn't screw other men, and women shouldn't screw women?
Yes you are a bigots because you concentrate on only one aspect of their relationship (which isn't even a major part of a same sex relationship) and disparage an entire group because of it.
Oh that sounds very familiar.
People once thought that it was wrong for a Black man to screw a white woman. People once thought it was wrong for an Asian man to screw a white woman.
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I'm trying to follow your logic, but again, something is grossly off.
You are following no logic at all.
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I didn't advocate the hanging or killing of gay people. I didn't even state that gays should be abused or mistreated. I simply stated that men should have sex with men and women shouldn't have sex with women, but again, because I stated this viewpoint, I'm labeled a bigot.
So what? your view point is now a minority view point.
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God already has warned that in the last days, sin will be viewed as good and speaking out about sin will be viewed as bad. It's all coming to fruition.
this was once said about interracial marriage. Did the world end in 60's?
I'm talking about the Roman institution. Marriage has in it the root word=matr meaning mother.
To me it makes sense, a man and a woman who want to join in union to produce children deserve some extra stability afforded by law to make the family work. two men or two women can have all the sex they want but why should society extend them benefits to help their union? What good does their union do for our society?
Two men and two women also form family units with children. Why shouldn't same gendered couples have the same "stability afforded by law" for their families?
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