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Old 03-01-2013, 08:46 PM
 
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If you don't support this bill then you're GYNOPHOBIC.
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Old 03-01-2013, 09:05 PM
 
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So if you don't agree with this bill which addresses nothing to stop violence you are now cheering on women beaters in your eyes? I've seen a lot of BS on this forum but yours tops the cake.
You are wrong, this legislation has done a lot to reduce domestic violence.

Domestic violence has declined 64 % since the legislation was enacted.

As Obama stated, "Over more than two decades, this law has saved countless lives and transformed the way we treat victims of abuse."

Congress sends Violence Against Women Act to Obama
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Old 03-01-2013, 09:13 PM
 
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You are wrong, this legislation has done a lot to reduce domestic violence.

Domestic violence has declined 64 % since the legislation was enacted.

As Obama stated, "Over more than two decades, this law has saved countless lives and transformed the way we treat victims of abuse."

Congress sends Violence Against Women Act to Obama
ALL violent crime has declined in that time period. Homicide has dropped more than 50% since the AWB expired, but that doesn't mean that guns were a factor in the decline.
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Old 03-01-2013, 09:30 PM
 
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ALL violent crime has declined in that time period. Homicide has dropped more than 50% since the AWB expired, but that doesn't mean that guns were a factor in the decline.
You know, normally I would simply post a link as to what has been accomplished with the Violence Against Women Act, but given the ignorance level on here shown by those who criticizing it without knowing what it means, here's a list of its impact. Read it, and then try to say that the Act has accomplished nothing.:


VAWA has improved the criminal justice response to violence against women by:

• holding rapists accountable for their crimes by strengthening federal penalties for repeat sex offenders and creating a federal “rape shield law,” which is intended to prevent offenders from using victims’ past sexual conduct against them during a rape trial;

- mandating that victims, no matter their income levels, are not forced to bear the expense of their own rape exams or for service of a protection order;

• keeping victims safe by requiring that a victim’s protection order will be recognized and enforced in all state, tribal, and territorial jurisdictions within the United States;

• increasing rates of prosecution, conviction, and sentencing of offenders by helping communities develop dedicated law enforcement and prosecution units and domestic violence dockets;

• ensuring that police respond to crisis calls and judges understand the realities of domestic and sexual violence by training law enforcement officers, prosecutors, victim advocates and judges; VAWA funds train over 500,000 law enforcement officers, prosecutors, judges, and other personnel every year;

• providing additional tools for protecting women in Indian country by providing additional tools for protecting women in Indian country by creating a new federal habitual offender crime and authorizing warrantless arrest authority for federal law enforcement officers who determine there is probable cause when responding to domestic violence cases.

VAWA has ensured that victims and their families have access to the services they need to achieve safety and rebuild their lives by:

• responding to urgent calls for help by establishing the National Domestic Violence Hotline, which has answered over 3 million calls and receives over 22,000 calls every month; 92% of callers report that it’s their first call for help;

- improving safety and reducing recidivism by developing coordinated
community responses that bring together diverse stakeholders to work together
to prevent and respond to violence against women,

• focusing attention on the needs of underserved communities, including creating
legal relief for battered immigrants so that abusers cannot use the victim’s
immigration status to prevent victims from calling the police or seeking safety,
and supporting tribal governments in building their capacity to protect
American Indian and Alaska Native women.


Since the Act went into effect:

Fewer people are experiencing domestic violence.

 Between 1993 to 2010, the rate of intimate partner violence declined 67%;
 Between 1993 to 2007, the rate of intimate partner homicides of females
decreased 35% and the rate of intimate partner homicides of males
decreased 46%.

• More victims are reporting domestic and sexual violence to police, and reports
to police are resulting in more arrests.

• States have reformed their laws to take violence against women more seriously:

 All states have reformed laws that previously treated date or spousal rape as
a lesser crime than stranger rape;
 All states have passed laws making stalking a crime;
 All states have authorized warrantless arrests

All states have authorized warrantless arrests in misdemeanor domestic violence cases where the responding officer determines that probable cause exists;

 All states provide for criminal sanctions for the violation of a civil
protection order;
 Many states have passed laws prohibiting polygraphing of rape victims;
 Over 35 states, the District of Columbia, and the U.S. Virgin Islands have
adopted laws addressing domestic and sexual violence, and stalking in the
workplace. These laws vary widely and may offer a victim time off from
work to address the violence in their lives, protect victims from employment
discrimination related to the violence, and/or provide unemployment
insurance to survivors who must leave their jobs because of the abuse.

from: http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/defa..._factsheet.pdf
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Old 03-01-2013, 09:31 PM
 
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Out of every 100 violent acts, 90 are committed by males. But it's the VAWA that is evil, huh?


I see you are finally using facts, only to use it for straw man arguments. Well to follow suit I guess that means you believe that any minority representation in crime should be set free. For example how many serial killer hermaphrodites are there? Its not the crime its the identities that count. Are you by chance not Asian because Mexicans and Blacks and Whites commit more crime.


Huh
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Old 03-01-2013, 09:34 PM
 
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I see you are finally using facts, only to use it for straw man arguments. Well to follow suit I guess that means you believe that any minority representation in crime should be set free. For example how many serial killer hermaphrodites are there? Its not the crime its the identities that count. Are you by chance not Asian because Mexicans and Blacks and Whites commit more crime.


Huh
I guess there is huge problem with violence in the U.S. because of all the violent women running around creating mayhem.
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Old 03-01-2013, 09:35 PM
 
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You are wrong, this legislation has done a lot to reduce domestic violence.

Domestic violence has declined 64 % since the legislation was enacted.

As Obama stated, "Over more than two decades, this law has saved countless lives and transformed the way we treat victims of abuse."

Congress sends Violence Against Women Act to Obama
post hoc ergo proctor hoc fallacy.
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Old 03-01-2013, 09:36 PM
 
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I guess there is huge problem with violence in the U.S. because of all the violent women running around creating mayhem.
So you want harsher punishment for blacks then?
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Old 03-01-2013, 09:38 PM
 
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post hoc ergo proctor hoc fallacy.
There is no doubt that the decrease in levels of domestic violence is due to many factors. But if you go above and read about it, you will see that the Act made possible many changes in laws that enabled more effective prosecution of perpetrators. And provided support for victims, to enable them hopefully to get away from their abusers. All of those things had an effect.
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Old 03-01-2013, 09:39 PM
 
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So you want harsher punishment for blacks then?
No, I'm sorry I may have missed your point.
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