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Old 02-28-2013, 09:34 PM
 
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another great double standard of the modern era.

Coups by rightists = good

coups by leftists = bad

notice the hypocrisy here?
Yes, your OP!!!
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:07 PM
 
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another great double standard of the modern era.

Coups by rightists = good

coups by leftists = bad

notice the hypocrisy here?
How come you didn't ask why illegal governments and coups are acceptable to left wingers when they support their interests?

See the Honduras situation where its President Zelaya was ousted from office when he refused to obey the Honduran Supreme Court and tried to have the nation's constitution rewritten. But Obama supported him. In a stunning pure coincidence, Zelaya is a committed leftist.

It's just supporting people who agree with you and opposing people who don't. Both sides do it. And to give themselves an accuse they just find something good or something bad that they can point to as the reason they're doing it instead of admitting it is purely political.

If you're going to call it hypocrisy, I think you need to go ahead and label yourself a hypocrite too for the "right wingers" part. I mean after all it's pretty hypocritical to start a thread calling right wingers hypocritical for doing something that left wingers do too.
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:08 PM
 
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The answer to the question is so obvious it pokes you right in the eye.

I don't think there is one single thing in this entire world that is more of or a bigger hippocrite than the American right wing.

There is not a single issue that they do not display this on a daily basis.
You're right that the right wing displays hypocrisy on a daily basis. However, you're a hypocrite yourself for suggesting the left wing doesn't so the exact same thing.
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Old 02-28-2013, 11:15 PM
 
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How come you didn't ask why illegal governments and coups are acceptable to left wingers when they support their interests?
Because Left is correct

Right is not.
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Old 03-01-2013, 03:15 AM
 
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Because Left is correct

Right is not.
Huh?
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Old 03-01-2013, 03:31 AM
 
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what I meant is that for many people, politics is as polarised as religion.

For me, Left just seems like it must be correct because I was a Socialist before I had even heard of it, as a young schoolboy.

That belief has never faded - a little like how some people have always believed in God, regardless of any teaching or Bible.

and this seems to be the same for many on the Right as well.

Politics is Religion.
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Old 03-01-2013, 06:35 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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You're right that the right wing displays hypocrisy on a daily basis. However, you're a hypocrite yourself for suggesting the left wing doesn't so the exact same thing.
They may do it but it does not define them.
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Old 03-01-2013, 06:51 AM
 
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Because Left is correct

Right is not.

No having and an open mind, seeing everything case by case is right.

Drinking the kool-aide and being a blind partisan is not.
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Old 03-01-2013, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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No having and an open mind, seeing everything case by case is right.

Drinking the kool-aide and being a blind partisan is not.
It's not being a blind partisan and it also not being closed minded if you see an entire political spectrum as EVIL. Even if and when the right does something that benefits ALL I suspect their motives.

You see, the right has a long long long history. It's very easy to study and become familiar with what they stand for, what their agenda is and who they really represent. The libraries of the country are full of books for those who care enough to find out the truth.

Right from the very beginning the Right wing of politics supported and upheld the rights of kings. Now, that in it's self might not be so bad but because it has always been done AGAINST the interests of everyone else in the society it becomes an evil, selfish, regressive, reactionary and also I might add fully discredited political philosphy.

You know, here in Canada the extreme social problems that are so widespread, so distructive, cost so much in crime, prisons, murders etc. in the USA are a small fraction of what you have there. Almost every single American city has large areas that resemble war zones, SLUMS that are mind boggling in their extent. WE don't have any of that here. Our murder rate is a small fraction of the US rate.

Seeing that we are a society that has arisen fron the same roots, our population makeup is very similar albeit more diversified, and our cultures are very similar, How can you account for such a huge difference in our two societies?

The answer is very clear. We don't now and have never had an extreme right wing political force that retards social development, creates urban wastelands, guarantees slums and huge numbers of marginalized citizens, rigs the entire system to benefit the "Kings".

In conclusion, in my mind it is not partisan that I detest the right, their history, their methods and their aims. They are a throughly negative force in our society and a plague upon it.

I want you to notice that I have not said anything about conservatives. Conservativism is not the same thing at all as rightist. A conservative can be progressive, he can desire progress for a wide swath of the country, he can propose solutions for intrenched poverty, urban decay, social problems of all kinds, etc.
A rightest can not do these things, his default position is that all progress and innovation in the social structure, any increase in the standard of living of the common man is against and contrary to the interests of the king and the king's court.

In the USA most of the GOP are not conservatives in any definition of that word. They are rightists and extreme rightists. This fact will be ultimately the extinction of this political dinosaur. That has been the case everywhere else in this world and history has a habit of repeating it's self. The only reason the rightists have managed to hold on for so long in the USA is the country had enough wealth and influence in the world that the crumbs offf the king's table were enough to keep the riff raff at bay.
Those days are done and it's nothing but downhill for the forces of the right from here on in.
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Old 03-01-2013, 09:08 AM
 
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Well I've been arguing with another poster about Chile recently.

Allende v. Pinochet for example.

but we could also think about places such as: Cuba, Vietnam, Cambodia, China, Nicaragua

or any others people have knowledge about

Allende was democratically elected then ousted by fascist Pinochet in an illegal coup, whilst the Western world cheered.

how is that right?

what about Somoza being kicked out - the west weren't so happy then, or when Castro took over.

major double standard here
One of the supporters of the dicator identifies himself as a Libertarian.
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