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Old 03-04-2013, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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A woman checks into a residence where she must first sign a statement acknowledging that no medical staff is present to treat you.

Then one day she collapses. She is still breathing, her heart is still beating.

911 is called. The dispatcher goes crazy. Listen to the audio, the dispatcher went crazy, trying to get someone to give this living and breathing woman CPR.

The ambulance arrives and loads this living woman up and goes to the hospital.

She dies at the hospital.



Some of you may insist that you would try to give CPR to a living breathing person. I would not.

I was trained NOT to give CPR, unless a person needed it. I do not care what the dispatcher was begging for. If a person has a heart beat, you DO NOT give chest compressions.

That makes perfect sense and is acceptable to me.

That dispatcher was nuts, imo. Squealing like a pig. It was not her job to give orders. It was her job to dispatch, doh! I can see the dispatcher giving helpful instructions IF ASKED. I assume they're trained to help deliver babies, yada yada. She wasn't asked for anything but an ambulance.

I have a feeling when the dust settles, the bawling media is going to look pretty silly passing judgement without knowing the details.
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Old 03-04-2013, 06:32 PM
 
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A thread that goes on and on, and nobody really knows the true story until all the facts come out.
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Old 03-04-2013, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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We are in a highly litigious society. Also jobs are hard to come by. The nurse did the right thing.
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Old 03-04-2013, 06:43 PM
 
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We are in a highly litigious society. Also jobs are hard to come by. The nurse did the right thing.
There is a difference between the 'right thing' and the 'legal thing'. The nurse might be looking at a decidedly uncomfortable future.
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Old 03-04-2013, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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That makes perfect sense and is acceptable to me.

That dispatcher was nuts, imo. Squealing like a pig. It was not her job to give orders. It was her job to dispatch, doh! I can see the dispatcher giving helpful instructions IF ASKED. I assume they're trained to help deliver babies, yada yada. She wasn't asked for anything but an ambulance.

I have a feeling when the dust settles, the bawling media is going to look pretty silly passing judgement without knowing the details.
If all you want is a dispatcher, get Life Alert.
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Old 03-04-2013, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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Not according to the article in post #2 (you did read it didn't you?).

"Fire officials reported that the woman died at the hospital."
Well, good. They they are the ones that should have resuscitated her. The nurse is off the hook. The lady was alive and breathing when she turned over control.
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Old 03-04-2013, 06:44 PM
 
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Well, good. They they are the ones that should have resuscitated her. The nurse is off the hook. The lady was alive and breathing when she turned over control.
Sounds good in theory. But will the DA see it that way?
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Old 03-04-2013, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Not according to the article in post #2 (you did read it didn't you?).

"Fire officials reported that the woman died at the hospital."

That is because when paramedics arrive at a scene, they immediately do CPR until the patient is "pronounced" dead at the hospital. If the lady was not already dead at the home, why on earth would she need CPR???
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Old 03-04-2013, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Sounds good in theory. But will the DA see it that way?
Absolutely! Can't have it both ways. Either the old lady died at home or at the hospital.
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Old 03-04-2013, 06:51 PM
 
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When I am as old as 87, I can only hope that I would die as quickly and as peacefully as that lady did. The last thing I would want is some "enthusiast" jabbing my broken ribs into my liver and dying painfully.
Then you should have your DNR appropriately documented.

I called an ambulance once for an elderly woman who was ill, even the Director of Nursing was carrying on about her DNR. Namely, that she didn't have one. But she's been here for almost 2 years! What do you want me to do, she doesn't have one.
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