Attn Parents: Common Core spreadingacross school sys. Data mining of your children

[HappyTexan]

Originally Posted by Winter_Sucks

In a way. I don't see the new standards as much of a change. It's pretty much just focusing more on going in depth with material. Our old standards were a mile wide and inch deep, now it's less wide and more deep.

I guess it depends on the subject area. I'm in Math and not memorizing multiplication tables in elementary is effecting students in middle school when it comes time to work with fractions and GCF and LCD. Same with formulas and at that level there aren't many formulas to memorize..area and perimeter are two examples. They need their charts to do that simple problem.

Come college though the crutches are gone..no charts of formulas and no dependence on calculators.
And that is one reason you see a rise in the need for remedial classes by US college freshman.
Very few foreign college students need remedial classes to get them up to college level ability.

[Tilt11]

One of a few concerns is privacy. I dont see the group behind this and people pushing it being very upfront about this. There is more to it than simply changing standards. And it seems the Federal Government is yet again getting involves where it shouldnt

[Old Gringo]

Originally Posted by HappyTexan

It's too late. States that got waivers from NCLB requirements have to move to RTT with Common Core.
It was a strong arm movement. NCLB requires 100% pass next year and no state in the nation is anywhere near that 100%.

And none of them want to lose their Fed money. Even Texas, as anti DC as they are, put in for a waiver.

Sadly there's no much to be done about this. The US went from #18 in Math (2000) to #31 in Math (2009) world wide. NCLB and new curriculum standards came into effect in 2000.

Once RTT is in place for a few years people we'll see that we're going from bad to worse.

NCLB and Common Core are perfect examples of bureaucrats with little or no teaching experience micromanaging America's education establishment into the ground. They can easily convince legislators who know next to nothing about education to buy into their silliness, and this is exactly what's happened.

A dozen years after NCLB, is anyone ready to claim that it's improved anything?

[HappyTexan]

Originally Posted by Old Gringo

NCLB and Common Core are perfect examples of bureaucrats with little or no teaching experience micromanaging America's education establishment into the ground. They can easily convince legislators who know next to nothing about education to buy into their silliness, and this is exactly what's happened.

A dozen years after NCLB, is anyone ready to claim that it's improved anything?

NCLB is not even acknowledged by Congress who passed it to begin with and were begged by schools around the county to modify it. I will say though that NCLB mandates did get states to move over to RTT with no arguments. No one wants their Federal dollars cut..no one.

[HappyTexan]

As far as data goes, NCLB mandated a lot of demographic data as well but didn't mandate it be published to the general public.
The data can be found for each state. RTT just mandates that the data be made more public.