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Old 04-01-2013, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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How many of the murderers carefully check the law books before they do their thing? The Supreme Court case - and its outcome - got tons of publicity. Actual laws being put on the books, don't.

The murderers probably knew a lot more about the Supremes ruling that Chicagoans could carry guns legally, than they knew about the exact contents of each city council meeting.

And, it looks like, acted accordingly.
So criminals don't obey laws, but criminals do pay attention to laws? Yeah, you make no sense, but you keep thinking this has anything to do with gun laws than actual social developments of neighborhood and culture.

 
Old 04-01-2013, 03:49 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Little-Acorn View Post
How many of the murderers carefully check the law books before they do their thing? The Supreme Court case - and its outcome - got tons of publicity. Actual laws being put on the books, don't.

The murderers probably knew a lot more about the Supremes ruling that Chicagoans could carry guns legally, than they knew about the exact contents of each city council meeting.

And, it looks like, acted accordingly.
Huh? Soooo, now the criminals pay attention to the news, law cases & the supreme court? Really? I'd be super impressed if that were the case.
 
Old 04-01-2013, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Better health care, bad shooters.
What are the stats for non fatal shootings?
 
Old 04-01-2013, 03:53 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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So criminals don't obey laws,
Correct. There may be hope for you yet.

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but criminals do pay attention to laws?
That's what you seem to be saying, when you offer "the laws haven't actually changed" as a reason why crooks shouldn't be deterred after the highly-publiczed Supreme Court ruling.

Am I to take it that you are now re-thinking your implication?

Retrospection is good for you.

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Yeah, you make no sense,
One of us certainly doesn't.
 
Old 04-01-2013, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by Little-Acorn View Post
How many of the murderers carefully check the law books before they do their thing? The Supreme Court case - and its outcome - got tons of publicity. Actual laws being put on the books, don't.

The murderers probably knew a lot more about the Supremes ruling that Chicagoans could carry guns legally, than they knew about the exact contents of each city council meeting.

And, it looks like, acted accordingly.
You are speculating, and it fails because you do not realize that the gun violence in Chicago is mostly between gangs, and the gangs always knew the rivals are also armed. It is a war, where both sides are armed to teeth. Besides, the ruling you refer to was three years ago, and Chicago still has very tough gun laws. As a matter of fact the NRA uses Chicago as an example of a place where gun control is NOT working.

This 42 % drop is in the past few months, February and March to be specific, and January was actually a bad month, even in Chicago standards.
 
Old 04-01-2013, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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Just wait for the warm weather to arrive. Happens every year. The warm weather arrived much earlier last year.
 
Old 04-01-2013, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Just wait for the warm weather to arrive. Happens every year. The warm weather arrived much earlier last year.
Maybe they are running out of ammo. Ammo is hard to come by these days. I have ammo which I have stocked up over the years, but I have not bought any new ammo lately due to high prices and empty shelves.
 
Old 04-01-2013, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Allendale MI
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Better health care, bad shooters.
What are the stats for non fatal shootings?
You should go back and read the part where it say shootings where down 27%.
 
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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Not just Chicago, murders are down 64% from last year at the same date in the Bronx.
 
Old 04-01-2013, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Murders fall 42 percent in America's deadliest city: Chicago - U.S. News

In the first quarter of the year, murders dropped 42 percent over the same period last year and shootings were down 27 percent -- reductions that authorities say were fueled by anti-gang initiatives.

"These numbers are progress but they are by no means victory," Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy said in a statement.

The encouraging figures come after a series of crimes that made Chicago a symbol of urban gun violence.

The nation's third-largest city ended 2012 with the most slayings: 506. Then came the shooting death of innocent teenager Hadiya Pendleton, who had just performed with her school marching band during President Obama's inauguration weekend activities. She was killed during the deadliest January that Chicago had seen in a decade.

But March, in particular, brought good news for the city and its beleaguered police force: murders down 69 percent, with 36 fewer people slain than in March 2012
And then Easter weekend comes in March, a mob of hundreds of teens and adults attack businesses and shoppers, and 23 people get shot on Easter Sunday, with two dead.

28 Arrested In Mob Attacks On Mag Mile, Red Line « CBS Chicago
2 Dead, 21 Wounded In Weekend Gun Violence « CBS Chicago

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