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Even if it is a progressive think tank, it doesn't mean the findings are meaningless. It's not like they can fudge the numbers. The crime statistics are what they are, and the Brady measure they used for the strength of a state's gun laws is publicly available, and is after all based on publicly viewable gun laws.
that sites information is as meaningless to firearm owners as going to the NRA site is to you.
A new study released yesterday by The Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence reported "a clear link between high levels of gun violence and weak state gun laws."
Across the key indicators of gun violence that were analyzed, the 10 states with the weakest gun laws collectively had an aggregate level of gun violence more than twice as high—104 percent higher, in fact—than the 10 states with the strongest gun laws.
The data analyzed in this report relate to the following 10 indicators of gun violence:
-Overall firearm deaths in 2010
-Overall firearm deaths from 2001 through 2010
-Firearm homicides in 2010
-Firearm suicides in 2010
-Firearm homicides among women from 2001 through 2010
-Firearm deaths among children ages 0 to 17, from 2001 through 2010
-Law-enforcement agents feloniously killed with a firearm from 2002 through 2011
-Aggravated assaults with a firearm in 2011
-Crime-gun export rates in 2009
-Percentage of crime guns with a short “time to crime†in 2009
States were ranked on these indicators and then compared to the ranking of states on the strength of their gun laws.
You can access the report and download fact sheets on the most violent states here:
see? you are cherry picking your data. firearm ownership is higher outside of chicago than in the city limits of chicago. why not take the numbers of the amount of gun murders in chicago and match them to the states you listed. I think your numbers will be a bit off then.
Vermont, Maine and New Hampshire have weak gun laws. Their crime rates are some of the lowest in the nation. I believe there are other factors involved here besides guns and their presence.
Vermont, Maine and New Hampshire have weak gun laws. Their crime rates are some of the lowest in the nation. I believe there are other factors involved here besides guns and their presence.
yep, how about starting to compare data between the cities, suburbs and rural areas.
I think the number would be more fair then, instead of comparing states.
since liberals tend to be in the cities, the numbers will tend to be higher as more gun control is in place. where outside of the cities with less gun control, the numbers will tend to be less than the cities.
see? you are cherry picking your data. firearm ownership is higher outside of chicago than in the city limits of chicago. why not take the numbers of the amount of gun murders in chicago and match them to the states you listed. I think your numbers will be a bit off then.
The study didn't cherry-pick data. It used state data. It didn't leave out Chicago, it's included in the Illinois data.
I'm not a firearms owner and I found that site to be meaningless.
In fact, I despise people torturing numbers (aka lying) to push their views on others.
Perform a solid statistical analysis, have it peer reviewed and released by independent sources.
Then we can have an HONEST discussion about guns and gun control.
the best kind of gun control is to have none at all. after all, criminals by nature will never follow the law concerning firearms. that means all that gun control laws do is effect the already law abiding citizen, and they are the people who dont need any gun control against them.
Vermont, Maine and New Hampshire have weak gun laws. Their crime rates are some of the lowest in the nation. I believe there are other factors involved here besides guns and their presence.
You're right. I don't think the authors of the study are saying there's a perfect correlation between the strength of gun laws and levels of gun violence.
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