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Old 04-19-2013, 09:07 PM
 
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Originally Posted by lol-its-good4U View Post
Yes and no imo.

But this POS needs to experience real pain though that won't happen in this country, in fact he'll probably get his every wish (other than be released) served him while in prison and till he gets out and he will.
Exactly what experience do you have with the prison system? Have you ever worked in any capacity in a prison, or visited a prison, or even done any real research on conditions in prison?

"His every wish" WILL NOT "be served him while in prison." That's just a ridiculous statement.

educate yourself:
Miami Herald News Reports on Frank Valdes case
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Old 04-19-2013, 09:07 PM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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It's the truth.

Not a cheap political jab.

We are better than they are.
There's a time and a place for everything.

I'm of the opinion that now is the time to talk about who the victims were, to remember them and honor their lives.

When all we can do is talk politics while the bodies are not even in the ground yet it demeans both ourselves and the victims.
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Old 04-19-2013, 09:10 PM
 
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So what is he "a great person?"

Okay great lets ask someone to kiss him and say what he did was okay, set him free and tell him that he can do it again.

My status line is a bad one for this Politics forum because of the polarized love for certain politicians in that if I call them out I get the "hate label" as I'm in a round about way getting here.

"LOVE and NOT HATE one another" is not for terrorists like this "great person".
If the status line had more room I'd state that.
Please quote anywhere that I said he was a "great person."

You seem to think only in extremes. Why in the world should this man be set free? There's NOT A CHANCE he will not be convicted of a crime here. Again, you and ridiculous extremes.
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Old 04-19-2013, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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Torture Penalty would be a better option. Right to the edge of death and then let him recover and then do it again.

No , this was one of the reasons Americans decided to break their ties with my ancestors. Have you ever seen the Tower of London and the what the British had in the way of torture impliments? What the English did to William Wallace was no exageration!

At least the poster didn't call for burning him alive at the stake!
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Old 04-19-2013, 09:12 PM
 
Location: In an indoor space
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Exactly what experience do you have with the prison system? Have you ever worked in any capacity in a prison, or visited a prison, or even done any real research on conditions in prison?

"His every wish" WILL NOT "be served him while in prison." That's just a ridiculous statement.

educate yourself:
Miami Herald News Reports on Frank Valdes case
I was making a point - of course that it won't be "club med".
It seems that with people like this that they get the wrong attention by some.
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Old 04-19-2013, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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My aversion to death penalty isn't about morality, it's about the fact that it cost tax payers more to execute a criminal than sentence him to life, and also, there are no retrials for someone who is dead. What if in 20 years it's discovered that this kid was forced to help carry out these acts under the threat of death? There have been many people executed who were later proven innocent. As much as I want this psycho to have his limbs blown off and die a painful death, I'd rather have him live than risk killing more innocent people.
I'd like to see numbers on your theory.

1. Exactly how much does it cost to execute?

2. Exactly how much does it cost to feed and shelter someone for, oh, say 50 years?
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Old 04-19-2013, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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I like the idea of a public square stockade for 10 years and then transfer to the guillotine






I'd suggest justice. Administered by passing him through a wood chipper. Sloooly.
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Old 04-19-2013, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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I'm pretty liberal, but I believe in the death penalty if it's a smoking gun type case. There's something repulsive about keeping a scumbag like Richard Ramirez alive on the taxpayer's dime.
Tax payers dime. How original.
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Old 04-19-2013, 09:17 PM
 
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I'd like to see numbers on your theory.

1. Exactly how much does it cost to execute?

2. Exactly how much does it cost to feed and shelter someone for, oh, say 50 years?
There are all the numbers you could ever want on those two questions on the Death Penalty Information Center site. That is IF you really want to know the truth and not just a site which will validate one's bias.
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Old 04-19-2013, 09:18 PM
 
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Please quote anywhere that I said he was a "great person."

You seem to think only in extremes. Why in the world should this man be set free? There's NOT A CHANCE he will not be convicted of a crime here. Again, you and ridiculous extremes.
You questioned why I call him a "POS", so my response will be in the opposite extreme as you didn't like the term I used. That's it. People who know me in CD (not in Politics - could be a rough forum in comparison from my experience) eventually get the meaning of what I write lol!.

I'm steamed about this ordeal so well my mood isn't the best when it comes discussing about him and his brother and what they did to those poor innocent people and their families while joking about it afterwards. My love and prayers goes out to the victims and their families/acquaintances.
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