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Old 04-29-2013, 08:55 AM
 
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I think the kids who are hungry are those of illegal immigrants,the people in Appalachia(some of them),and as someone pointed out,those who make too much for food stamps but not enough with their working income to buy food.

For the record,and I don't know WHY people keep correlating obesity and starvation.

You CAN be a hungry person who just happens to be obese. Maybe they have a disease.
Oh please. That is so tired because few people have a disease that makes them obese. Sure it happens but that isn't even on a radar as far as percentages go.

People are obese because of what and how much they eat and their inability to control themselves. They pass those lifestyles onto their children.

Those obese parents sitting down at buffets with plates piled high? They all have the the disease, stupidity. When will people wake up and stop making excuses for the obese? An entire movement was created to make it a forbidden issue and then come the big sob stories about how so many children are FAT.

Obese. Like saying something is unneeded materials. No, it is trash.

People get fat because they eat too much and exercise too little or not at all.

When you go food shopping and see that huge butt taking up the entire aisle and then see them paying with food stamps or other public assistance, yeah, they have a disease all right. It's called dependence upon the public teet and no motivation to do anything about it. Their kids can't fit into the cart for a ride might be better placed in the pork section.

Society has made it ok to be fat. Nah, it isn't your fault, it is because someone else did something, didn't do something that caused you to eat your way to whale beach.

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Old 04-29-2013, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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What's the point in all the many birth control methods and drugs if more people than ever are having babies they cannot afford?
In many 3rd world countries, you have as many as children as you can, their reasoning?

You have 12 children, and you pray and hope, out of the 12, 3 or 4 will survive to adulthood, become bread winners, and help support the others/their parents.

As the U.S., other Western European countries, regain their status as 3rd world countries, look for more of that same mentality re-emerging!
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Old 04-30-2013, 04:06 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Did you guys even look at Mathguy's link? Childhood hunger is basically non-existent in America, in fact we have a huge childhood obesity epidemic going on right now. The OP's link and post is sensationalistic to say the least...
Well, no. Seeing who the OP is made the need to debunk unneccessary.
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Old 04-30-2013, 04:14 AM
 
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Did you guys even look at Mathguy's link? Childhood hunger is basically non-existent in America, in fact we have a huge childhood obesity epidemic going on right now. The OP's link and post is sensationalistic to say the least...
Saying 1 in 3 is obese, doesnt exclude the other 2 from the possibility of being hungry.
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Old 04-30-2013, 04:17 AM
 
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I've seen TV ads, heard radio ads, and even saw a highway billboard that roughly claimed that 1 out of 6 American kids go hungry. Sometimes I see it as 1 out of 5.

I believe this to be dubious.

They simply take America's poverty rate (1/6th) and assume that A) kids make up a roughly equal representation of this and B) everyone in poverty is going hungry.

#1 There are many government programs from welfare, to food stamps, to WIC, to Unemployment, to Free or Reduced school Breakfast AND Lunch (Half of the kids in Michigan Qualify for free or reduced lunch so access isn't hard), to Free School Summer Lunch programs in urban areas, local charities and churches helping with food pantries, and etc... Which is perhaps why:

#2 Per the 2010 Census more than 80% of the people living in poverty self-reported that they never had to go hungry during the past year.

This is not to say that no one goes hungry... I just don't believe the raw numbers of 1/5th to 1/6th of kids are going hungry.
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Old 04-30-2013, 04:19 AM
 
Location: Florida
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This is not to say that no one goes hungry... I just don't believe the raw numbers of 1/5th to 1/6th of kids are going hungry.
Maybe their parents are smartening up and have them on diets?
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Old 04-30-2013, 04:32 AM
 
Location: Holiday, FL
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The thing I don't get are those commercials or even billboards that mention 1 in every 5 or 6 kids in America (can't remember the exact figure, something close to that) doesn't know where their next meal will come from, deals with hunger. My wife and I just don't get it, where are these kids, how do they get these numbers? Sure we know there is some poverty in this country, but there are food stamps and welfare to at least feed people. Heck, even homeless have access to multiple shelters in each city where they can get meals, so nobody- even homeless people- should be starving. So how is this truly the case? Or is it just more sensationalism?
When I was a kid my family was really poor- at some points my mom was unemployed and we had no money- lived in a crappy apartment- but my mom got food stamps so we always had more than enough food. Isn't that still the case today? I know it is, I have a coworker who has 3 kids, wife is unemployed so their finances are tight- and even in that case with him working they get so much in food stamps that he said they load their pantry with more food than they can possibly eat each month.
As to "where are these kids?" You might try looking in these areas.

The 25 most dangerous neighborhoods in America- MSN Money

Detroit, Chicago, Houston, Indianapolis, Greenville, SC...

And, that food stamp program works well... Until one or both parents is on drugs. Then, they sell the food stamps (for about 50 cents on a dollar) to be able to buy more drugs, or alcohol, or both. The kids from those homes have been known to come to my door looking for something to eat. It's bad enough when they spend every dime they get on spice or pot, but some are on cocaine and crack. Not the kid's fault. And, unfortunately, the more you give those parents, the more they will spend on drugs and alcohol. It still won't benefit the kids.
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Old 04-30-2013, 10:05 AM
 
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Source?
Source? Its common sense, Einstein.
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Old 04-30-2013, 10:45 AM
 
Location: "Daytonnati"
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With SNAP and WIC we (the USA) shouldnt have a problem with child hunger.
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Old 04-30-2013, 02:03 PM
 
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And these people are often cut from the same cloth as people who assumed mortgages they could not afford to carry, I recognize that naivete' is often as much a factor as irresponsibility, but how do we police this problem?

Parents should be required to carry liability insurance before they can raise children. Insurance companies are very good at calculating risks and charging accordingly. The parents most at risk of bad parenting will find insurance priced out of reach, and these parents will lose their kids.
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