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Old 04-25-2013, 10:29 PM
 
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that's a joke right?
Wait till I tell you about the local proctologist.
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Old 04-25-2013, 10:30 PM
 
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Any doctors' wives here who would like to expand upon the victimhood status of docs and their families?

Enjoy the Philippines!
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Old 04-25-2013, 10:31 PM
 
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Docs tend to hate lawyers. Personally, I tend to prefer lawyers. The medical industry is the only one in which the service provider expects a "thank you" from me. No, no...I'm the customer...you have it backwards. I don't know that I've ever received a "Thank you for your business," ever, from a doc or from his/her staff. Ever. That's astounding, when you think about it.
I think that's fair enough though, because the doctor has likely saved your life or relieved you of some physical problem.

Why should he have to grovel for you just because you are chucking him a few dollars anyway.

Don't want the service, don't pay for it then.
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Old 04-25-2013, 10:55 PM
 
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I think that's fair enough though, because the doctor has likely saved your life or relieved you of some physical problem.

Why should he have to grovel for you just because you are chucking him a few dollars anyway.

Don't want the service, don't pay for it then.
Thank you for perfectly illustrating the mindset that perpetuates the problem. Thanking someone for keeping them in business is "groveling?" What a remarkably stupid statement. You then compound it by stating that if I'm not prepared to thank a doctor for allowing me to give them business, then maybe I should just stop getting medical treatment. Is that brilliant, or what?

This was just a thoroughly outstanding effort.

BTW, should I be thanking the electric company every month for providing the heat that keeps me alive when I write them a check?
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Old 04-25-2013, 11:26 PM
 
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Docs tend to hate lawyers. Personally, I tend to prefer lawyers. The medical industry is the only one in which the service provider expects a "thank you" from me. No, no...I'm the customer...you have it backwards. I don't know that I've ever received a "Thank you for your business," ever, from a doc or from his/her staff. Ever. That's astounding, when you think about it.
I don't think that's true, in fact, I know it's not true. I work in a group practice of 5 doctors. One has a father who is a lawyer; one has a twin brother who is a lawyer, and one has a brother-in-law who is a lawyer. There's more crossover than you apparently think.

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Primary care sole practitioners are a dying breed, just about everywhere.

Primary care is increasingly being provided by physicians assistants and nurse practitioners as a part of larger practices. Patients outcomes are similar.

What this MD failed to mention was the financial incentives being offered to medical practices to convert to electronic health records. That this MD had 5000 patients and no system says something about his operation. Sounds like he was ready for a change and chose to be an employee of a group practice in Australia.
Stimulus money is available too for conversion to EMR.

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Never said they were leaving the country,...that would be the OP. But, there are many doctors leaving their practices, selling to other larger institutions, or are retiring early. It's already difficult in many areas to find a doctor who will accept Medicare (my area for instance) because of the low reimbursement. Since ACA is fashioned after Medicare, that aspect of healthcare may become more prevalent in the near future.

When ACA is fully implemented, it may add millions of new patients which will further glut the healthcare industry. Seems inevitable, fewer doctors, more people, longer waiting time to see a doctor, more red tape, more government regulations, less privacy,...overall a worse system than we have now,...at least for some.
You know, I really have a problem buying that, b/c with the exception of pediatricians, OBs, and perhaps psychiatrists, most doctors have elderly patients, or at least those on the far side of 50.

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Yup, there will be a doctor shortage as some go into other ventures (contrary to popular opinion, doctors are not myopic robots and they are perfectly capable of doing other things besides practicing medicine). Also, they will coalesce into hospital practices and we will all get to queue up with the commoners.
Frankly, I don't know what the ones I work for would do if they left medicine. When this has come up before, some say "teach medicine", but you don't leaver private practice after 25 years and go into teaching just like that. Academic medicine is its own specialty.
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Old 04-26-2013, 03:55 AM
 
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Thank you for perfectly illustrating the mindset that perpetuates the problem. Thanking someone for keeping them in business is "groveling?" What a remarkably stupid statement. You then compound it by stating that if I'm not prepared to thank a doctor for allowing me to give them business, then maybe I should just stop getting medical treatment. Is that brilliant, or what?
I know that whenever a doctor has helped me out, I feel gratitude whether paying for it or not.

I wouldn't expect them to thank me for the business because healthcare should be 100% socialised.

The mindset of believing that you should be a customer here is what is wrong with your post.

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BTW, should I be thanking the electric company every month for providing the heat that keeps me alive when I write them a check?
YES - you should.

Or do you think you can just magically generate electricity yourself by getting out your credit card?

No, I thought not.
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Old 04-26-2013, 03:58 AM
 
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Yup, there will be a doctor shortage as some go into other ventures (contrary to popular opinion, doctors are not myopic robots and they are perfectly capable of doing other things besides practicing medicine). Also, they will coalesce into hospital practices and we will all get to queue up with the commoners.


That is complete nonsense because many countries with socialised medicine have fantastic health services as well as an abundance of staff who never want to leave.
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