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I was just reading the zero tolerance policy for weapons posted on my kid's kindergarten wall this morning.
It includes ALL knives, laser pointers, scissors, things of that nature - as well as shotguns and rifles.
The rules are that the school MUST detain the child and recommend suspension from the school district for one year.
This includes possession on school property and in transit too and from school.
It is not beyond the realm of possibility for my kindergartner to put a pair of scissors in her book bag, or a butter knife, or something else seemingly innocuous (including the laser key chain thingy we use to play with the cats).
It states very clearly that there needs be no ill intent meant for the rule to apply.
Ad technically, if we discover the scissors in her book bag outside the school while getting out of the car we would be in violation.
Am I for kids bring these things to school? No. But I am against the absolute language that her teacher and Principal have no choice but to suspend her for an entire year for doing so regardless of the item or the circumstances. I think that's scarier than the odd dangerous item that might slip through the cracks.
I was just reading the zero tolerance policy for weapons posted on my kid's kindergarten wall this morning.
It includes ALL knives, laser pointers, scissors, things of that nature - as well as shotguns and rifles.
The rules are that the school MUST detain the child and recommend suspension from the school district for one year.
This includes possession on school property and in transit too and from school.
It is not beyond the realm of possibility for my kindergartner to put a pair of scissors in her book bag, or a butter knife, or something else seemingly innocuous (including the laser key chain thingy we use to play with the cats).
It states very clearly that there needs be no ill intent meant for the rule to apply.
Ad technically, if we discover the scissors in her book bag outside the school while getting out of the car we would be in violation.
Am I for kids bring these things to school? No. But I am against the absolute language that her teacher and Principal have no choice but to suspend her for an entire year for doing so regardless of the item or the circumstances. I think that's scarier than the odd dangerous item that might slip through the cracks.
Public schools don't teach any living skills these days period. DARE Hired me twice and I wasn't able to do a thing for either class.
Kids are not allowed to handle any tools. By the 3rd time DARE wanted to hire me i just turned it down.
You can't learn sewing, beading wood working or leather and metal work with no simple tools.
Now i would have been allowed to teach how a penis enters the vagina no problem....
People like you and me must understand that in the new World order the traditional family values are all wrong...
strange how people blast unequal application of justice, and never see when they do it. for all those who think this is a black and white world, and I am with you or against you, I think the kid was unfairly treated.
Public schools don't teach any living skills these days period. DARE Hired me twice and I wasn't able to do a thing for either class.
Kids are not allowed to handle any tools. By the 3rd time DARE wanted to hire me i just turned it down.
You can't learn sewing, beading wood working or leather and metal work with no simple tools.
Now i would have been allowed to teach how a penis enters the vagina no problem....
People like you and me must understand that in the new World order the traditional family values are all wrong...
Sorry Mac my friend, but I have no qualms about penis entering the vagina education. I do agree with you about the tools.
I don't see this as a partisan issue. I think a lt of practical everyday things aren't. You can be sensible about things on either side of the fence if you want to be.
If you don't like the rules at your school, home school or put your kid in private school. Lets see if the private school puts up with your kid wearing a AR-15 gun shirt to school or keeping a weapon in his vehicle...If they do, then you are at the right school.
This is just another example of how gun nuts think that laws don't apply to them. I wonder if some of the 2A fetishists would feel the same way about a marijuana enthusiast that just happened to forget he left a few grams of weed and a bong in his car and feel like the rules shouldn't be enforced in that case either.
If you don't like the rules at your school, home school or put your kid in private school. Lets see if the private school puts up with your kid wearing a AR-15 gun shirt to school or keeping a weapon in his vehicle...If they do, then you are at the right school.
He is funding that public school through his tax dollars. Rather than pull his kid out, wouldn't it just make more sense to change the schools policies to ones with some degree of common sense, and hire administrators that had some judgement, instead of rote memorization of poorly thought out rules? It needs to start with voting responsible adults onto the school boards, not just those that are on a power trip.
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Originally Posted by Sco
This is just another example of how gun nuts think that laws don't apply to them. I wonder if some of the 2A fetishists would feel the same way about a marijuana enthusiast that just happened to forget he left a few grams of weed and a bong in his car and feel like the rules shouldn't be enforced in that case either.
I don't have any issue with that. Unless a specific student has been identified as some specific threat, the schools have no business whatsoever going throught the locked and secured cars of the students. Your rights against unreasonable search and seizure should not end at an arbitrary patch of pavement, particularly when it is one paid for by the public. Yes, I know, that legally they currently can do so, I'm saying it's wrong. Just as it would be wrong for your local mall or McDonalds to expect to search your car when it's on their parking lot.
If you don't like the rules at your school, home school or put your kid in private school. Lets see if the private school puts up with your kid wearing a AR-15 gun shirt to school or keeping a weapon in his vehicle...If they do, then you are at the right school.
So what, you can't even have a discussion about not liking the rules without getting your head bitten off?
I don't believe we need to damage neighborhood schools even further by insisting that we all pull our children out because we can't have a discussion about what's reasonable policy and what isn't.
Intent does not absolve one completely. Besides, youre out of your element. I think he should be given a slap on the wrist, which I have already said.
"Intent does not absolve one completely."
"Originally Posted by Quick Enough "they let this kid off,". Have you ever heard of a reprimand? A 2 day suspension?" I believe I said the same thing.
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