Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
View Poll Results: Tax wall street
No 13 54.17%
yes 1% or lower 2 8.33%
Yes 1% to 3% 4 16.67%
Yes 3% or higher 5 20.83%
Voters: 24. You may not vote on this poll

Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 05-16-2013, 06:41 AM
 
69,368 posts, read 64,118,301 times
Reputation: 9383

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by Michigantown View Post
You should should look at the London example.
World wide the tax only raises $38Billion in 40 countries total, if you're calculating it would raise $150B in the US alone, then looking at London as an example would be ridiculous since our tax revenues raised would be 150 times as large.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 05-16-2013, 06:47 AM
 
69,368 posts, read 64,118,301 times
Reputation: 9383
Quote:
Originally Posted by lycos679 View Post
^^^ This is exactly why we tax the PROFIT of any sale and not the sale itself.
Yep, and any serious proposal that has come up to tax transactions actually abolished income taxes, so when these people calculate the revenues to be raised by taxing transactions, they fail to calculate the lost revenues due to not counting the profits any longer.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-16-2013, 06:47 AM
 
79,907 posts, read 44,210,872 times
Reputation: 17209
Quote:
Originally Posted by pghquest View Post
How the hell is my money which I spend on a stock, your money?
The stock would still be in the tank or stagnant if not for the continued practice of taxpayer subsidies through the QE programs.

Your money would be your money but any profits right now are largely because of taxpayer subsidies.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-16-2013, 06:49 AM
 
69,368 posts, read 64,118,301 times
Reputation: 9383
Quote:
Originally Posted by pknopp View Post
The stock would still be in the tank or stagnant if not for the continued practice of taxpayer subsidies through the QE programs.

Your money would be your money but any profits right now are largely because of taxpayer subsidies.
The QE programs arent being funded by the taxpayers, its being funded by the Federal Reserve, and since all of that money needs to be reversed at some point, are you suggesting the taxpayers should subsidize peoples losses?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-16-2013, 06:51 AM
 
79,907 posts, read 44,210,872 times
Reputation: 17209
Quote:
Originally Posted by pghquest View Post
The QE programs arent being funded by the taxpayers, its being funded by the Federal Reserve, and since all of that money needs to be reversed at some point, are you suggesting the taxpayers should subsidize peoples losses?
We did, did we not?

Taxpayers are paying for QE directly every day with higher prices.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-16-2013, 06:54 AM
 
69,368 posts, read 64,118,301 times
Reputation: 9383
Quote:
Originally Posted by pknopp View Post
We did, did we not?
No we didnt subsidize stock losses, the limit on losses = $3,000 a year.
Quote:
Originally Posted by pknopp View Post
Taxpayers are paying for QE directly every day with higher prices.
Even non taxpayers are paying for it, but thats not the discussion. In fact since people are profiting from the QE at the moment, this will generate more revenues to the federal government, not less. Remember, we pay taxes on profits..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-16-2013, 06:56 AM
 
11,768 posts, read 10,264,758 times
Reputation: 3444
Quote:
Originally Posted by pknopp View Post
We did, did we not?

Taxpayers are paying for QE directly every day with higher prices.
The QE program is separate from stock ownership and deserves its own thread. Taxing the transfer of ownership doesn't control or directly impact the the fed. Maybe you should assess a special tax on the fed.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-16-2013, 07:01 AM
 
79,907 posts, read 44,210,872 times
Reputation: 17209
Quote:
Originally Posted by lycos679 View Post
Alot of the derivatives are insurance products designed to manage risk though.
How did that work out?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-16-2013, 07:02 AM
 
11,768 posts, read 10,264,758 times
Reputation: 3444
Quote:
Originally Posted by pknopp View Post
How did that work out?
Asked and answered.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-16-2013, 07:03 AM
 
69,368 posts, read 64,118,301 times
Reputation: 9383
Quote:
Originally Posted by pknopp View Post
How did that work out?
Under normal situations it works out fine, but clearly it didnt this time which is why the US Government had to bail them out or subject themself to tens of trillions in mortgage obligations.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:45 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top